Does this thing have any plausibility for any real job? Why or why not?
34 years of living and I’ve never actually had to do one of these. (I don’t have to now, either, but I’m doing it anyway for fun and just-in-casies.)
Does this thing have any plausibility for any real job? Why or why not?
34 years of living and I’ve never actually had to do one of these. (I don’t have to now, either, but I’m doing it anyway for fun and just-in-casies.)
I got two blank pages when I clicked on it. Is this a bit of pop art?
What do you mean by a ‘real job’? Outside of teaching and research?
ETA: It does load really slowly.
I personally don’t like the style.
I like
Name
Address
Phone
Email
**EDUCATION:**
University
Degree Date completed
Degree Date completed
**PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE:**
Start Date – End Date Company – City
Title/Position
• Long
• Bullet
• List
• Of
• Accomplishments
Start Date – End Date Company – City
Title/Position
• Long
• Bullet
• List
• Of
• Accomplishments
**PUBLICATIONS:**
“Any publication”, Where it appeared and what date it was published
“Any publication”, Where it appeared and what date it was published
**Any other major Accomplishments**
*
*
But for some reason if you want to keep it the way you have it I wouldn’t say it’s incorrect, just not what I prefer.
Anotherthing -it’s VERY light on detail and accomplishments. Not sure if you did that on purpose but you need to talk about what you did in a LOT more detail.
Yes, that was my meaning.
I do have a longer version, but every example and piece of advice I saw today online said keep it to a page or two at the most. I could remove some of the “timeline” probably to make room for more detail.
It’s probably the crappiest resume I’ve ever seen. I’m not kidding. Listen to Zoid.
PS - It loaded fine for me.
fwiw here’s the expanded version w more detail that I made on my first pass: http://www.mediafire.com/view/?8p1qg0ydi330qq7
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I agree that it’s missing significant detail. You want a list of positions you’ve held and the significant work you’ve done with some specifics, not just It also doesn’t look like a resume for a technical position. zoid’s format is pretty standard, especially if you have strong academic credentials by putting them first.
This is good: “Prepared grant proposals for the Houston AIDS Foundation earning over $50,000.”
It says what you did, where, and why it was valuable.
This isn’t as good: “Worked with academic unit to implement programs and plan events.”
That could mean you passed out some booklets and took lunch orders.
ETA: Ok, now I’ll look at the long version.
ETA: I’m getting Invalid or Deleted File on the long version
The problem I have is that I have to data-mine the (long version) resume to understand timelines and accomplishments. I prefer Zoid’s format.
I should be able to see in a standard format:
Your job title
Company
Dates of employment
What you were responsible for
What you accomplished.
Lather, rinse, repeat. Maybe leave off older entry-level jobs if appropriate.
Should work now.
Three of you have commented on the format now, so I’ll think about it. But resumes ordered by skill rather than by position are on display at every “how to write a resume” site I remember looking at today so I’m surprised if it seems so out of the ordinary.
I can see what you mean about datamining for the timeline–but can you explain why you’re interested in it?
As for accomplishments, they’re just listed right off from the beginning so I’m not sure what you mean there. (Granted, some of the things listed are better than others and some should probably be left off or greatly reworded–but your datamining comment I don’t get. They’re right there on the first page listed off. Maybe I’m misunderstanding you.)
(Which I’m not doing, but which I would be doing if I were sending out resumes.)
More detail. You need numbers where ever you can provide them.
From the time you started working in Japan till now it’s been 12 years. 12 years should be pages full of stuff.
Instead of trying to pick out the important details do just the opposite. Write down EVERYTHING you did and then work on trimming it back. This is one of the reasons I don’t like the style. Don’t look at similar things you did at different jobs and lump them together. List each job and it’s accomplishments separately, you couldn’t have done the exact same thing at each job. Make that sucker as big as it needs to be to include all your accomplishments and then worry about making it fit to the required number of pages.
Anecdote - mine is 4 pages long and every recruiter and interviewer I’ve spoken to said not to cut a single word.
I’m not saying you fromat is incorrect, it’s just not what I prefer and to be honest a lot of hiring managers are going to look at it like “WTF is this?”
Okay, thanks for the advice.
Do you have any idea why the internet-consensus seems to be that a two page resume is pushing it, size wise?
Also, a query about how you would expect the years spent in education to fit in. You mentioned that since the timeline starts with the first job in 2001, there should be pages worth of accomplishments. But of course seven or eight of those years were spent in school. Do you recommend listing responsibilities/accomplishments/etc for things like “doctoral student” as well as for actual times of employment? Or is that not what you’re saying?
There’s a lack of chronology in the listing. I know you have grouped it by skills, but it’s hard to dive around and mine the data in that format. You also mix job details with job requirements, and I can’t determine what the job description is and what you accomplished.
Hey, I’m no expert; I’m just offering opinions.
Which recruiters or interviewers are telling you this?
Two pages should be the maximum. Resumes and cover letters should be tailored to the particular job.
I read a lot of resumes, and I don’t want to wade through more than a couple of pages each. The one exception is for candidates who’ve published a lot of papers, and even then I’d prefer it if they could keep it to a page.
Oh yeah, I understand you’re just offering opinions and I really appreciate it.
What I was trying to ask is, why were you so interested in figuring out the timeline as you read it? In other words, why is it important to you, when reading an individual accomplishment, to be able to fit it mentally into an already-established timeline?
I’m asking because I imagine the answer will help me understand my audience better.