My Garbage is Not Good Enough

I’m a transplant to NY, and although it is not as awe inspiring and exciting as I had hoped, I like it just fine. But mostly NY, when I not off on some errand elsewhere in the world, is traffic.

[note to fellow New Yorkers: there is a world outside of New York – Shanghai, for example, is a couple millennia older, 15% larger, and just as exciting. It is in a land called ‘China.’]

At any rate, as if the traffic itself is not enough of a tribulation, I’ve noticed something else disturbing while stopped on the motorways. If you look closely, every wooded field, each seemingly serene tree stand, has been spoiled by garbage. It’s a terrible shame, but it’s one I think I have begun to understand. You see, there must be people like me – people whose garbage is not garbagy enough to be picked up by the garbage man. Frustrated New Yorkers who have taken their rejected refuse and found a new, and unfortunate home for it.

When I first moved in, I was a whirlwind of unpacking energy. I quickly brought all the things the old owners had inconsiderately left behind to the curb, filled a few moving boxes with used packing material, and even cleared some leaves and twigs from the gardens. And if the neatly piled stack of garbage at the road had left in the big green truck it was waiting for, it would have begun to seem like home.

But I watched the garbage man, who was a garbage man not just in avocation but spirit, when he came to make his rounds. He picked up on oddly mangled coat rack, chuckled mean-spiritedly to himself, threw it back on my lawn, and drove off. My refuse had offended the garbage maven, perhaps even the great and terrible garbage gods! But how?

I rushed to library to research the best way to appease an angry garbage god. It was all there, or so I thought, codified in complex language. Biodegradable twine, no nylon – check. Leaves only in paper, garbage only in plastic bags – check. Boxes cut down and bound in special twine – check. And the list goes on, but it isn’t important, because it doesn’t work.

Plastic that looks like metal, even if it is surreptitiously hidden in the bottom of a can – rejected. Old carpet – rejected. Leaves now wet and soggy in their special paper bags – rejected. Do you get the idea, or do I need to go on? And if one item, one cereal box or bottle cap is found wanting, nothing gets picked up. There is no partial credit in garbage, I have found.

I chatted with friends at work and asked them if they had had similar experiences. My coworkers, normally confident, energetic folk, looked uncomfortable with the subject. It was as if the very conversation might be reported to the garbage ministry, or anger the trash spirits.

“Have you bought the garbage man a gift?”
“Yeah, or just pin some money to the garbage.”

“What?! I’m the guy who leaves a 30% tip for good service, and nothing for poor service. I’m not rewarding my ill-tempered trash czar for poor service, which by the way, my taxes already pay for. I’m calling to complain about him.”

There where startled glances all around. You would have thought I just peed on a statue of the virgin Mary.

No one complains about the garbage pick-up!”
“Yeah, I knew I guy who complained once, and they found his ear and knee cap in New Jersey.”

New Jersey! The garbage gods are swift and severe in their retribution. I have made arrangements, and paid for, special pickups, taken my saws-all to everything over 6 inches in diameter, and set out the garbage like it was a burnt offering to a vengeful god. I marketed my garbage, trying to make it as appealing and enticing as a chocolate torte frosted with liquid sex.

But the trash warfare continues. Yesterday I threw out a soccer ball. The garbage man removed it from the can and punted it down the street.

So how much do you tip a trash deity?

I was looking forward to reading this thread so I could complain about my city’s garbage collection. But now, I know I live in paradise.
Thank you.

One six-pack of cold beer on top of the pile of rubbish has always worked for me…
And I’ve thrown away some weird shit.

Yeah - for starters you’ve been throwing away perfectly good six packs of beer!

Never have tipped a trash collector. Ever. Then again, I put out one can a week, and it’s rarely filled. I recycle. I separate my yard waste. I do everything but toss it in the back of the truck.

Besides, we have to pay for trash collection - not in taxes - we get billed quarterly. On top of that, we have to pay $96 a year for the priviledge of using the dump, whether we use it or not. Which I don’t.

Nope, no tips for people doing a job they took freely.

Well, well, well. Welcome to NYC. You have just learned the first lesson:

“It’s gonna’ cost ya.”

Trash collection. That’s gonna cost ya. Does your building have a doorman? That’s gonna cost ya, especially around Christmas time. Feel like just taking a walk? Hoo, boy, somehow it’s gonna cost ya.

It is what it is.

I’m convinced my house is on some sort of black list. Why on earth would the garbage man sift through a can, and finding a soccer ball, decide to take time out to do a Pele impersonation? The can, by the way, was rejected. There most be a special protocol for throwing out soccer balls. Maybe you have to deflate them, sprinkle them with holy water, and place them in separate canvas bags.

I bet the previous owner offended the garbage gods, and I inherited the bad karma. I’m no detective, but that would explain why they risked default of their contract by leaving things behind that should have been thrown out. I dunno. Maybe they tried to recycle uranium (he was a Russian physicist – no joke) or had a habit of leaving bundles of poison oak and Chinese firethorn branches at the curb.

Gary, you just made my day. :slight_smile:

Gary Kumquat, have you ever had to get rid of a couch covered with fresh bloodstains? That six-pack seemed a small price to pay…

No, no crime was involved-- It’s a long story, so stop looking at me like that. :slight_smile:

In NY (upstate) I used to have my garbage collected by a friend of a friend who worked for a service. He passed my house on the way to the landfill anyway, so the deal was that we would leave a few bucks on the garbage, he would have coffee money, and he would pick up our stuff. We lived there for 5 years and every single Monday without fail, he picked that garbage up. Not only that, he returned the cans to the porch (he had to walk across the driveway to do it) and tooted the horn and waved at the house, in case we were watching. We threw away unspeakable things- everything short of bodies.

I left money each week (a few dollars, depending on the load- $5 if it was a lot, $3 if it was a can), sometimes scratch off tickets (he loved those), sometimes beer- I liked to mix it up some. I figured if he didn’t know what he would get, it would be like getting a surprise every week. And so it went- I loved my garbageman.

I strongly suggest a six pack and a note of thanks for the hard work. You gotta do what you gotta do.

That has never happened to me or anyone I know. Pay the sanitation guy? Why?

Sanitation has refused to pick up garbage that improperly packed. If you mix in paper waste with food waste they may refuse to pick it up since it is supposed to be sorted. Large pieces of garbage like furniture and refrigerators are only picked up on certain days of the month and you should call sanitation to find out which days these are. Most people don’t know this so they end up with a smashed in TV out in front for 2 weeks.

Of course all this only applies to city sanitation. If you’re garbage is picked up by Tony Soprano’s garbage company, then maybe a hunnert taped to a head of a horse might work.

Biggirl,
You are obviously one of the garbage illuminati. At any rate, I have defeated you and your trash cronies. A new crew came by yesterday (so says a neighbor) and they must not have consulted the black list, because the picked up everything.

And before you say, “Waverly, that is at least two pick-ups in the same week. Methinks you lie.” There are 12, maybe more, pickups during a given week. About half are garbage runs where they refuse to pick up garbage, and then you have assorted refusals to pick up leaves, paper, glass, plastic, and Celine Dion albums.

I’m so glad I live in an apartment complex. We just chuck everything into a big, concrete hole-in-the-ground that miraculously eats our trash and makes it go away. All this complication for TRASH?

Waverly, you are my Pit Hero. :smiley:

I don’t get tipping the garbage guy either. I pay taxes, and they pay him. Plus he gets first pick of all the really cool stuff people throw out. I compost, I recycle everything that might conceivably ever be used by another human ever again, and every large item I have to throw away, I ask around first if anyone wants it. Failing that, I leave it out front for a few weeks in case any sharp-eyed and industrious hobbyists happen by and spot a new weekend project.

I’ve never understood getting extras just for doing your job. And it’s so unevenly distributed too, which bothers me. Nobody tips the drive-thru workers, the office workers, the vet techs, the receptionists, the park rangers, or the convenience store clerks. Either you tip everybody or you tip nobody, and since nobody is cheaper, that’s who I tip. Except restaurant staff, but that’s more surival than courtesy, because these people have access to my food.

Okay, okay, if somebody has done me a personal favor over-and-above what their job entails, I slip them a five or ten depending. But the garbage guy? Sorry, no.

Well, my goodness, apparently I have been living in Garbage Heaven and didn’t know it. I have been at my current house for three years now and I don’t think I have ever once had the garbage collectors fail to take anything I left at the curb. If it’s trash, I put it in the big blue plastic bin and they take it. If it’s recyclable, I put it (unsorted!) into the little blue plastic bin and they take it. If it’s yard waste, I put it in a plastic bag and, you guessed it, they take it. Cardboard boxes I break down into kinda-sorta-almost the right size pieces, tie them together with twine, and they take them, too. Sunday night I put it out, and Monday morning it disappears as if by magic. And to top it all off, they pick it up in a giant blue futuristic garbage truck with a mechanical claw on one side that (I’m not making this up) shoots out, grabs the garbage can, upends it into the truck, and places it gently back onto the curb. It’s cool to watch.

Of course I must note that my taxes do not pay for this. Our garbage collection is through a private company to which we pay a quarterly fee, plus a once-per-annum yard waste charge. Clearly, it is worth every penny.

So, what do you do with the bodies, then? :confused: :wink:

You’re probably gonna hate me for this one.

It’s truely garbage heaven where I live. They will pick up almost anything during their weekly run. Not only that, you don’t even have to haul it to the curb. They city has these little Cushman trash trucks that drive up your driveway and empty the trash cans in your garage! It’s heaven. All I have to do is remember to open my garage door on trash day. !

The city will come and pick up the big trash four times per year at no charge.

If you have a construction project, they will come and drop a roll-away dumpster in front of your house for $25.

I love it.

While our garbagemen are not prejudice against any certain type of garbage, they are incredibly anal about where the garbage is placed. Our garbage cans sit in the corner of my lot. Normally, on Sunday nights, I slide them all of 10’ to the edge of the sidewalk so they can grab them. It frustrated me a few times when I forgot to move them, and they simply passed by as if they did not see them. Again, we are talking about at most 10’. So for the last 5 months, I have been moving the cans to a position which is gradually groing further away from the curb, the distance increasng about a half a foot per week. Eventually, I hope to get them to a place which is FURTHER AWAY then where I store them during the week, just so I can say, “I WIN”!

If I tipped my garbageman, they would never know it because they don’t even get out of the truck.

That’s right, sometime last year they gave every house in my (albeit small) city a large, standard, flip-top can with wheels and handle and the words “Property of Barker Brothers Waste, Inc.” On the appointed night, you roll it to the end of your driveway, two feet from the road, at least four feet from any mailboxes or shrubs, handle facing the house. They have us trained fairly well.

The following morning, they bring out their trucks with the giant bent-two-pronged-pitchforks on the side and the guy hanging off the back to pick up the trash. Guy in back waves when the pitchfork is lined up with the can, truck stops, a lever is pulled, and the pitchfork flings the can into the air, dumping the contents in the giant bin in the back of the truck. The pitchfork holds it there for a minute, then slams it back to the ground. Repeat for next house.

It’s fascinating to watch, actually.

Not only do I not tip our garbage men ( They frighten me more than clowns and the perfume nazi’s at the department stores) I avoid them like a bad odor.

Case Study: Mr. Ujest had rolled up into a nice big metalic wad a large section of chicken wire that would go around my garden. It was no longer serviceable for our needs, so he was suppose to drag it down to the curb. ( It’s not a curb, we are on a dirt road. ) naturally, this being a large wad of metal, he forgot and I did not want it sitting around another week. So I had the honors, and it wasn’t exactly easy, as it was probably the size of a Mini Cooper but with better trunk space.

The garbage guy (wearing a dog collar) said to me, " We can’t take that." He cited some cockamammie rule, blah blah blah.

I pouted, and whined and charmed the guy with some thing, I don’t know what. But the Garbage Guy relented and loaded it into the back of the truck.

“If this happens again.” He said omniously, " I’ll make you my medieval slave.’
Now, I just drag down things the night before and put a sign on them stating " FREE" . It is always gone by morning.

I ain’t gunna be nobody’s medieval slave.