Well when Obama’s army of Orcs comes to his house and hears he has a gun I’ll bet they’ll turn and run for the hills.
I can understand owning a gun for personal protection but not for protection against the government. Ruby Ridge, Waco, Addam Swapp- has there ever been a gun owner who won a shoot-out with government officials?
Tell him not to worry, the Dems will win and he will be considered an “insurgent” to be mercilessly hunted down by the forces of the Democratic Party. It will be like Logans run but the sandmen come for you when you register republican. 
I’ll post here what I never posted in the “Militant Left” thread.
The very last thing the Left should do is give the leadership of the Right what it desperately wants: a target for its back-yard army to shoot at. As it is, the Right is losing its ability to control or even to point/ unpoint the well-armed, angry, and under-employed fringe that it has built. Pretty soon the only possible fire-power worthy opponent within shooting range of it will be the armed forces of the US, and thats a battle the Right desperately wants to avoid. The consequences of the loss (and it could not win) would be to have its political clout and ideology forced out of power for years, if not generations.
Well, that and they have no desire to have their assets carpet-bagged 1866-style.
I second the “guns hold their value better than gold” idea. They almost never depreciate. The funny thing is I’m surprised he told you. That was a mistake.
Butbutbut…I thought the Obama wars are over now. We can buy ammo and gunsafes at Wallmart again. Guns are now in good supply as well.
Aren’t we stocking up for 2012 now? Pillows for knees and lots of praying happening?
I’m so out of it. When 2001 happened, the only thing I had stocked up was beer, munchies and smoking material. I also did laundry and ironed because I knew that I’d be going to work the next day. Someday, I’ll be in the in-crowd…if only I keep up with this stuff :smack:
I didn’t bother to do any stocking up. I saved some money though. Bought a really nice generator for pennies on the dollar in late January.
I’m curious as to what I can get for cheap from a sucker after the 2012 thing blows over…
You’ve got to keep them in excellent shape to get your money back though. Either don’t use them, or use them very, very gingerly. If you actually have fun with them, you’ll probably wear off enough finish to hurt the resale value.
Apparently it heard you and acted accordingly today.
I am going to have to learn to keep my mouth shut. 
If you hadn’t specified the part about being 50 and in OH I would have thought you might be talking about my grandpa. He also started buying guns when Obama was elected (unregistered, of course, so that the government can’t track him) and has been stockpiling valuables for when he has to negotiate with the last dregs of society left behind by the war like he thinks he lives in Thunderdome or something. I’m the only one in my family who thinks this might be a sign of dementia or something similar. Everyone else believes that this is just prudent of him.
Oh yeah? How do you like THESE GUNS?!?
What?
What “whole thing?”
Any conservatives/libertarians I know who are avoiding the stock market are doing so because they believe (a) stocks have risen to unsustainable value multiples in the past two years and are due for a correction (see, today); (b) the government stimulus can’t/shouldn’t continue, and that this is all that has been propping up the markets; (c) the massive printing of money will eventually/soon lead to mass inflation in the dollar, thus driving down the real buying power of dollar-denominated stocks; (d) real assets (gold, land, agricultural commodities) will hold their value much better than stocks or dollars. I have never heard anyone seriously suggest that conservatives/Republicans were boycotting the market (presumably, against their own economic self-interest) to “prevent economic recover during the current administration.” Never. Where are you getting this?
And where did you get the notion that investing in the stock market equated to “economic recovery?” The DJIA has very little to do with “economic recovery” – for instance, in fact, the stock indexes have been on a two year upward tear and huge numbers of people remain out of work, real wages and buying power are down, etc., etc. (In the long run, if nobody were investing in stocks/bonds, real economic growth could be limited by lack of capital for new ideas, but as I’ve demonstrated to you, that’s exactly what has not happened in the markets the past few years).
Finally, you obviously need to look up the word “treason.” The notion that citizens have an affirmative obligation of loyalty to prop up the stock market to a particular level I find bizarre. Markets are where people decide what the think something is worth at the moment – nothing more or less.
The man did two legal things that normal people do every day. He did so, it’s true, out of an expressed view that (in an economically and politically tumultuous time) there might be civil unrest, which he (rightly or wrongly) associates with Obama, whom he doesn’t trust to preserve his liberties, maintain order and sovereignty in the U.S.
Well, I suspect he overestimates the risk of “war” and overestimates the causal role Obama would play in bringing about any unrest (personally I think it’s not out of the question that we might see First World food riots if commodities really take off, inflation starts to hit, and we have a drought or two – you can blame Obama I suppose for the inflation, in part). But he’s buying cheap insurance against what he regards as a serious risk.
YMMV. But I’d not go with “nuts.”
Buying gold coins is nuts. Gold is at all-time highs but it’d have to double just to break even if you buy it in coin form.
But Glenn Beck, a fully accredited and licensed economist, says that gold is a wise investment–especially physical gold.
I didn’t know if the OP literally meant numismatic coins or the U.S. Mint “coins” which are actually bullion.
Also not sure what you mean by “would have to double to break even?” Are you saying the buy/sell spread on numismatic coins is so wide that transaction costs are relatively huge? I don’t know anything about that market so that may be what you’re saying. There’s a separate theory among some investment writers that numismatic coins are undervalued because they’ve historically traded at a big premium to spot gold, whereas the premium is now the lowest (by percentage) in recent memory. Don’t know if I buy that thesis (and I have not put any significant money into any gold thesis). But I don’t know enough facts (nor enough about the future of the gold price, which has in fact doubled in a fairly short time) to say this guy’s investments were or weren’t nuts, economically.
No.
It isn’t child abuse either.
Neither does it cause global warming.
Neither does it accuse Al Gore of taking credit for inventing the internet.
Best wishes,
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Great. Now I have to buy a guy to protect me from An Gadai’s girlfriend’s uncle. NE Ohio is getting to be a crazy place to live.
Prolly illegal.
You may want to consider getting a gun, or a guy with a gun, rather than just a guy. Plus you may want to enter into some form of contract with the guy, rather than just attempting to buy him. That’s even more reactionary-conservative-crazy than An Gadai’s girlfriend’s uncle.
