My heart needed a workout, or 22" of cheesesteak

My first job ever was at a food court restaurant with a split counter - one side served mainstreamized Greek food (gyros, souvlaki, baklava), the other was sandwiches, specializing in cheesesteaks. The company was founded in Georgia (they are still around today as Great Wraps) but having had cheesesteaks in Philly, I’d say ours were as close as you could get anywhere else. You had a choice of American or provolone cheese, or Cheddar sauce. We also offered a pizza steak.

No one EVER ordered them with mayo. And I wouldn’t have made it for them if they did. And I don’t care for either hot dogs or ketchup, but putting them together is just wrong, wrong, WRONG.

I made a darned good cheesesteak if I do say so myself. But the place closed… oh crap, well over 15 years ago… so I’m not gonna challenge Airman either. I never did more than 5 or 6 at a time even back then. Which is probably why they closed the location, come to think of it…

LOL. You all are so funny.

I can understand the “no mayo on cheese steak” concept, but no ketchup on hotdogs? Gimme a break - its not like its a gourmet piece of meat whose piquant flavor must be preserved.

I’ll take mine loaded up (with ketchup, my wife eats hers with mayo, too), thank you very much.

I’ve got to chime in here. Having grown up in the Philadelphia area and having lived in the Harrisburg area and also the midwest for a time, and having visited many other cities, I can state with certainty that the one and only place you can get a proper cheesesteak is in the city of brotherly love.

Sure, anyone can make their own, in fact I rate my own homemade cheesesteaks on par with the best Philly has to offer, but the issue (as someone stated earlier) isn’t the meat, the onions, the cheese or the pizza sauce, though all are important. The one thing you can’t get outside Philadelphia is a proper Italian roll. Forget your glorified hot dog rolls in Harrisburg. In fact when I lived closer to York PA, I used to drive to Harrisburg to a place that had the closest next best thing to a Philadelphia roll. Forget your fresh store baked rolls at Subway (yuck!). The farther away you get from the heart of Italian South Philadelphia, the less likely you are to be able to obtain a proper roll, and once you get say 40 or 50 miles out from the epicenter, forget it. No way. You just can’t do it. koeeoaddi has the right idea, substituting a french baguette in the Pacific northwest. This is, in fact, the next best thing to use if you are not in Philadelphia.

Amoroso’s is the most well known Italian bakery that makes these rolls, and as such they are the defacto standard, but there are even better rolls out there. Poke around the many places in South Philadelphia where they make cheesesteaks and hoagies (same roll), and you’ll find any number of smaller Italian bakeries making even more awesome rolls specially for these shops - they make small quantities, and compared to Amorosos (which I like a lot, don’t get me wrong), they have way more character, a tougher crust, and fresh chewy bread on the inside. One hoagie shop I know that uses one of the most awesome rolls ever, gets a certain amount of these rolls in the morning, custom baked for them by some small bakery in South Philly, and when the rolls are all gone, they close for the day - I’ve seen this happen at 3pm.

The fact the these rolls are so unique to Philadelphia is sort of similar to the phenomenon that really really great french baguettes can only be found in France. I’ve had some really great baguettes stateside, but in Paris you find the highest quality baguettes by the thousands on literally every block. Not to insult the French, but how hard can it be to make a great baguette if they are pumping them out like water? Well, there is some factor at work here, and it is similar to the Italian roll phenomenon in Philadelphia. I can’t begin to explain it - where are Sculder and Mulley when we need them?

So, I’ll second the person who said, if the place calls it a “Philadelphia cheesesteak” your first instinct should be to run the other way. Granted there may be expatriate Philadelphians who may be glad they no longer have to shop at the Accamee, and they may make a reasonable facsimile of a cheesesteak, but the only way to get the real thing is to come to Philadelphia. Oh and thanks Frank for a great op. I’d be tempted to go chomp two myself right now if I hadn’t had that late lunch today. Cheers.
Anyone who is planning to visit Philadelphia is welcome to email me for cheesesteak tour guide suggestions. The cheesesteak might be the best thing this city has going for it.

Oh, and please, no mayo on a cheesesteak ever. Maybe on a cheesesteak hoagie, but never on a cheesesteak.

Way worse than ketchup on a hot dog (not that there’s anything wrong with that).

What about barbecue or hp sauce? Does it go well on a philly cheese steak sangwich?

Watcher, we used to get our stuff imported fresh every day from Philly. It’s not like it tastes better just because it’s in the city.

And if you seriously think that mine won’t compare, you can find your way down here and I’ll make some for you.

Here!

No, here!

What’s a brother got to do to get some cheesy love, here?

Robyn! Talk to the boy for me, will you?

The wonderful thing about a cheesesteak is that it’s a pretty versatile thing.

In addition to various cheeses and the all important cheesesteak hoagie I’ve had them topped with:

Onions (of course) Hot Peppers, Sweet Peppers, Pepperoni, Bacon, Pizza Sauce, KC Masterpiece or Bullseye BBQ Sauce, and Hot Pepper Sauce (it’s gotta the Korean kind though, nothing else has the right peppery flavor). I know others who have used ketchup but I personally can’t stand te stuff.

So yes, go for it with both Phelan just never, never, never put mayo on it.
Actually, until reading this thread the very thought of such a thing had never even crossed my mind.

Oh yeah, before I forget.

Airman, I will provide the supplies if you tell me when you’re coming up to visit TruePisces. I, for one, never miss the chance to chow on a good cheesesteak. :slight_smile:

I second/third/whatever the “I really want a cheesesteak now” and “Mayonaise on a cheesesteak? What the hell?” sentiments.
The one thing I don’t like about cheesesteaks is how the meat also has those weird tendon-esque fibers that hold it together (I know the’re not tendons, but I don’t know what it is…I guess it’s just because the meat is so thin it falls apart in weird way). That freaks me out.

Also, watcher, when you say “I can state with certainty that the one and only place you can get a proper cheesesteak is in the city of brotherly love.”…you need to include South Jersey in that. I’ve had them at Pat’s and I’ve had them at the place down the street and I can’t tell the difference.

I have not, however, had them anywhere that wasn’t within a half-hour radius of philadelphia, and I desperately want to go to some far off state and order one, just so I can scoff at whatever they bring me.

There needs to be a law to prevent Subway from calling that thing it makes a “cheesesteak”, incidentally. Their subs aren’t awful for chain store subs, but… putting cold meat and cheese on a roll, popping it in a freaking microwave, and telling the customer it’s a cheesesteak… no, no, no. That has to violate some truth in advertising rule somewhere. Cheesesteaks must be made on a grill, and the more seasoned that grill is, the better.

Incidentally, be aware that a baguette is only an option if you can get proper baguettes. If you live near one of those evil bakeries that makes baton-shaped loaves of Wonder bread and calls them baguettes, it won’t work. It’s not just that it won’t taste right - it’ll collapse all over your shirt. And a cheesesteak is a terrible thing to waste.