Barbara. His daughter was named Karen, his wife’s name was Grace. The house boy was named Joseph. The cat was named Doctor Livingstone I Presume. His son’s name was Duke.
Off the top of my head. Can you tell I’ve read the book more than just a few times?
That too, I suppose. In The Cat Who Walks Through Walls he does seem to want to “spank her untill her bottom turns pink” the girl in question being 13. I did find that unsettling too, being as he almost slept with her, and did not seem to find it that much of a problem. Ick indeed.
While I agree that pedophilia is damned nasty, I’d like to point out a couple of things. The moon (as written) is still a pioneer society, so babies are not only welcome but hoped for; and as soon as a girl hits puberty she’s fair game for joining the gene pool.
Considering that Heinlein was writing both about a different time (the far future) and by an author who grew up in a different time (a time when teen brides were relatively common), I don’t think it’s incredibly creepy unless you’re filtering it through the current (at least since the late 40’s) scenario of teenagers being sexless neuters who don’t start to be capable or desirous of sexual contact until they magically turn 18.
Heinlein’s space colonies (or former colonies) were very much “frontier societies”. Like the old West, the colonial era in America, and other frontier societies, marriage and reproduction were events that happened in what we view as middle childhood. Not to mention that independence and maturity were traits that manifested early in life…or that life would be very short. I have no problem thinking that a 13-year-old Heinlein character was well aware of and ready for sexual relations.
Heinlein’s political conservatism tends to overshadow his sexual liberality. Incest, hebephilia, polyamory and (in later novels) differing sexual orientations are portrayed in a pretty positive light. I’ve noticed, in actively reading within the poly community, that quite a large proportion of poly practitioners were inspired by Heinlein’s later novels to become poly in the first place.
On more than one occasion Heinlein waxed elegant and profuse in praise of his second wife Ginny (Virginia), declaring her to be far more intelligent than he. Isaac Asimov even said that she swayed Heinlein in his political views. Asimov described Virginia Heinlein as, IIRC, a “rock-ribbed, redheaded right-wing Republican.”
I also read an article (forgot by whom) in which it was mentioned that, without fail, Robert Heinlein always rose when Ginny entered the room.
The only reference I’ve ever read about Heinlein’s first wife, named Leslyn, is in a letter to his agent declaring something to the effect that once they are divorced, he (Heinlein) would be able to concentrate on writing without the depression caused by being married to her.
As far as I know, Mrs. Heinlein is still alive, living in Florida. I alwasy got the impression she was ten-fifteen years younger than he.
Heinlein was also not the only one to speak kindly of Ginny. In Requiem, nearly everyone made it a point to speak of how wonderful Ginny was to Heinlein. When RAH was too ill to complete a rewrite of Stranger in a Strange Land, Ginny undertook the task, all the while caring for RAH.
I think even Heinlein makes a not-too subtle joke about this in The Cat Who Walks Through Walls, where Dr. Ames is describing the writing process to Hazel, and mentions something about filing serial numbers off a story for later use.
Much of Heinlein’s later stuff is of poor quality IMHO, but I think that this is because Heinlein knew he wasn’t going to be around much longer and wanted to crank out as many of the ideas he had before it was too late.
I’ve always thought some of the later books could use a few more names during the dialogue, but are quite good regardless. But then again, I really liked The number of the Beast. And on the gripping hand, I’m biased because RAH and I have the same birthday.
I’ve read most of his books, as a teenager (too many years ago).
I actually liked the movie version of Starship Troopers, as a modern critique of the novel. Lots of people hated it, but I don’t know that they saw it is a cynical interpretation of 1950s American sci-fi culture (land on a hostile planet and break out the gridiron footballs). I did, anyway (and besides it starred Denise Richards ).
One thing I didn’t understand was how his writing changed from having a boys-own right wing Republican (Starship Troopers,*Space Family Stone *, and his earlier books), to hippy free-love Woodstock (Stranger in a Strange Land, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, Time Enough for Love, even Glory Road, although a commune gets rough treatment for calling the hero a “mercenary”). I know I’m exaggerating a little bit, but I think he was seriously influenced by 60s culture. Certainly he had his own influence on the 60s - I’m told (born in '69 so I can’t remember) that “grok” entered slang parlance (even now, Curtin University in Western Australia has a student newspaper called “Grok”).
In respect of his treatment of women, I have to admit I never noticed the “spanking” theme. I thought his heroines were terribly stereotyped, save perhaps for Friday. Each of them seemed to be Dejah Thoris, re-cast, something he seems to have recognised in “The Number of the Beast”. Damon Knight wrote an introduction for one of Heinlein’s anthologies, and remarked that the heroines often resembled Heinlein’s wife, a subtle criticism of stereotyping.
One of the other things about Friday is that it anticipates the internet, beating William Gibson’s Neuromancer by a couple of years, from memory.
One thing Heinlein evidently hated was being pinned down by labels. I don’t think he was ever your stereotypical Republican. Later he didn’t turn into a stereotypical hippie. Heinlein was never a stereotypical anything. If you wanted a quick explanation of him, I’d say that he resembled a Libertarian more than anything – so far Right he’s Left. That explains his apparent right-wing military background as well as his apparent liberal social mores.
Except, of course, that Heinlein wouldn’t be a stereotypical Libertarian, either. I’d heard that there was some interview he did where he kept subverting the interviewer’s expectations of Libertarian responses (I’d love to know where this is – I’ve never read it).
One of Heinlein’s 5 rules of writing is :keep it on the market until it sells. He always said that he was in the biz for the money-- his health being too poor to do any “real” work.
So, as the expectations of the audience changed, he surfed the wave in order to keep selling.
That said, I never thought Starship Troopers was very Republicano. The underlying theme of the book is a good idea (must serve others before being allowed to vote) which I’ve always thought of as being anti-Republican.
I’d thought that earth society in the story was supposed to be a parallel of ancient Spartan society (had to serve in the military before becoming a citizen; only full citizens were allowed to vote; war-based society; Earth/Spartan society considering themselves a democracy (they did have elections) and they were a lot closer to one than the only other society (the bugs) that they had contact with). I also seem to recall some similarities between Starship Troopers and the ‘300 Spartans’ story. But then it’s been a long time since I’ve read either and I may be off base here.
I’d heard Heinlein used a computer to randomly generate descriptions of his female characters from a list of (bodacious) adjectives he supplied. Don’t know if there’s any truth to that.
Back in the 60’s there seemed to be a lot of that “Women are just as good as men, if not better…but all they really want is to obey men and have babies” attitude in SF. (Heinlein and Harry Harrison are two that spring to mind) To me, it seems just as sexist as saying women aren’t as good as men. It’s almost like they’re intentionally subverting the feminist message. “Sure, you’re equal, but you should know your place.”
And here I was thinking it was the Leo Frankowski aisle you should be looking for, with his execrable Cross Time Engineer series. Amazingly icky.
“Robert A Heinlein: A Readers Companion” by James Gifford.
A truly excellent overview of all Heinleins writing along with commentary from Gifford from the Heinlein archives at UC-Santa Cruz (I think, I’m working from memory here).
It literally lists EVERYTHING he every wrote under any pen name as well as background information on each book and story. In addition, each item is listed with when and where it appeared in print.
Other biographical details are also included as well.
It took amazon.com about 3 months to get it to me as the publisher, Nitrosyncretic Press appears not to be the most responsive firm in the world. But when I got it I absolutely devoured it.
Worth it. Trust me. There are no bigger Heinlein fans in the world than me (we’re all tied) and I hadn’t been this pleased with a book in years.
Try Louis L’Amour, my other favourite author; His main characters are all cut from the same mold. Sigh. 1988 was a dark year.
As for the beating stuff, It’s harmless patter. I’ve never laid a hand on Mrs. Blue in 19 years of marriage. Every year on my birthday (I’m 2 months older) she threatens to buy me a cane, and I threaten to beat her with it. Still no cane!
I have an illustrated edition of Number of The Beast, bought in England, no other copy of which I’ve seen since returning stateside. He kindly sent me his autograph on a label, which is now in that book. Also I can attest to Virginias’ grace and warmth, as evidenced by a letter she wrote to me in response to one I wrote to Robert. As far as I know, she answered all his fan letters.
I remember picking up a copy of To Sail Beyond The Sunset and feeling apprehensive about the title, and then learning that he had indeed passed away not too long before.