My Older Daughter Is Going To Los Angeles Next Month - What Should She Know?

She’s 18 and it’s her first solo trip. She’s always been rather shy and afraid to speak for herself, so I’m really glad to see her coming out of her shell. I’m also very nervous about the whole thing, though I keep this to myself, of course.

She will be staying with a family but she doesn’t know who they are yet. The organisation that manages her exchange programme will give her their contact information two weeks before the trip. I talked to her yesterday evening and it seems that they will not be picking her up from the airport, and she casually said that she’ll “take a bus or the metro”.

I left it at that but here come my first questions. A bus, really? Is it feasible, or even recommended? What about the metro? Wouldn’t a taxi be a much better option? Of course, not knowing yet where exactly she will be staying, I realize it’s impossible to answer these questions in a detailed way, but I’d love some input, even if only in very general terms, so that I can tell her if, say, the bus is really a terrible idea for instance.

Also, she’s already made a list of the things she wants to see: the Hollywood sign, the Walk of Fame, a Dodgers baseball game, the Griffith Observatory, some iconic places from a TV series she loves. It seems pretty standard to me but it’s her dream project, and I’m really happy she’s making it come true. Are there any areas she really should avoid?

More generally, are there things she really needs to know to make her experience rewarding and, first and foremost, safe?

I grew up there but left after college and now only visit occasionally. So I’m not a great source for current public transit.

“Los Angeles” is the term for a city, a county, and a general region in Southern California encompassing parts of 5 counties and over a hundred municipalities. In area it is much larger than all of Greater London. By comparison, New York City proper, which you & she have seen, is far denser, but also tiny in area.

Knowing which “Los Angeles” we’re / they’re talking about will be important.

As a general matter, public transit sucks. The metro is very limited, but does go to/from the main airport. If it happens to go right by where her new home will be that’s great. If not, it’s useless. Bus service is slow, infrequent, and the routes are far apart. The sheer area of LA’s sprawl is not amenable to quality public transit; it’d take many many thousands of busses in motion all day every day to provide the sort of dense mesh folks expect in more compact cities & surrounding suburbs.

Something like Uber is probably the best bet. Especially since she’ll be wrangling bulky luggage.


There are plenty of areas that aren’t real safe for random lost foreigners, and especially after dark. Somebody from the rough side of London could probably recognize the signs, but somebody from the comfortable part of a smaller town or city could get themselves in deep unwittingly. As a general matter, there are few touristy things in scary parts of town.

Again all of Greater LA is so vast that without knowing which general area within the region we/she is talking about it’s going to be hard to provide useful, not irrelevant, advice.

She should bear in mind that LA can be cooler than one may think. I was there a week ago and was surprised to find it was like Texas in winter and I’d only brought one pair of long pants. Although the locals told me it was a cold front that week.

The Santa Monica Pier, although too touristy, is still always fun. Definitely try out the Japadog hot dogs with seaweed and Japanese mayonnaise. I had three dogs in one day; they were that good.

Ubers will be ghastly expensive, yes, but buses are really hard to figure out.

It’s odd that she knows she won’t be getting a ride from the airport when she doesn’t even know who her host family is yet. Has she talked to the organizers to find out how they expect her to get from the airport to her destination? Seems like they are kinda dropping the ball on this.

It may be irrelevant to any advice you’ve asked for, but would you mind sharing where your home is, and how long her visit will be?

If she’s licensed to drive, I’d strongly endorse any scheme that involves getting her a rental car. LSL_Guy’s assessment of public transit in the area is not as out of date as he may think. LA is not serious about having a public transportation system.

Renting a car is out of the question for a person under 21 years of age.

Which airport is she flying in to?

LA is huge. It really depends on where she’ll actually be staying. The weather also varies by quite a bit depending on if she’ll be closer to the coast, the mountains, etc. She really will have to depend on Ubers to get around if she can’t rent a car. Public transport for the vast majority of places will be nonexistent.

I’m in my 50s and live in Toronto which is notorious for traffic. I’ve driven in New York City, Chicago, Miami, and LA in rush hour traffic. I would never advise an 18 year old who doesn’t know the roads well to rent a car in LA, even if it was possible.

Hollywood Blvd:

Those costumed characters at Hollywood & Highland want money for taking pics with them.

There’s also guys there handing out cd’s (cd-r’s) of their music, trying to “promote”, but all they ask is for a little “love” (money) in return. They do it at Venice/ Santa Monica too. Just say “no” and keep walking. That goes for anyone trying to give/ sell you anything.

There’s a souvenir shop next to Grauman’s Chinese Theater (Hollywood $10 Boutique), that announces that for the next 10 mins, EVERYTHING is on sale for half off!!!..It’s perpetual. They are ALWAYS saying it.

Speaking of all the souvenir shops on Hollywood Blvd… most have the same t-shirts, and random LA/Hollywood stuff. Don’t get too excided at the first store you see, because you’ll see a lot of them!

She might think The Walk Of Fame is going to be glamorous, but she will be shocked how many homeless are there. Don’t be surprised to see piss trails coming from a sleeping bag. There’s going to be beggars too.

John Stamos’ star is at 7021 Hollywood Boulevard, near an LA Fitness :wink:

IIRC she’s also coming from England, so would be driving on the other side. Ubers are the way to go.

Current public transit in L.A. is much better than it used to be. Maybe it’s up to merely “terrible” instead of “god-awful”.

I recommend getting an Uber or Lyft from the LAX airport. There’s a shuttle bus that takes people from the arrivals areas to a dedicated rideshare area. Once you’re in the rideshare area, order a ride and tell them exactly which pickup number you’re waiting at. They drivers will come straight to you.

Put simply: you need a car. Both Uber and Lyft are generally easy to get from and to all the tourist areas.

That’s a bit unfair. The inherent design of what got built over the last century simply precludes an effective public transportation option. Given the entire Federal budget for all purposes you could just barely outfit LA with a half-assed system. That would create as much traffic and problems as it solves.

It is simply not designed to have public trans. And given the dispersed nature of the government there, it could not have occurred differently.

I used to transit LA on a weekly basis back in the early 70s. It was a nightmare then and I can’t imagine what it must be like now. She should definitely use a hired car/driver.

Bear in mind that rail transit in Los Angeles has expanded tremendously over the last few decades, and is continuing to expand.

Of special note: June 6 is scheduled to be the opening day of the LAX/Metro transit center which finally directly connects the airport to the metro system.

In fact, Los Angeles of the first half of the 20th century had an extensive system of streetcars, cable cars, and funiculars (of which only Angels Flight remains in semi-functional form) which were systematically eliminated specifically to facilitate the the freeway system, which was designed for distributed suburbanized growth. Trying to build a really functional public transit system in Los Angeles today would require so much right of way, would run into geographic obstacles, and would meet so many legal and environmental challenges that it is kind of amazing that it actually has the Metro and Metrorail systems it has.

‘Tremendously’ is a relative term. While it is true that the Los Angeles Metro system has expanded in the last decade and ostensibly provides access to most of Los Angeles County and even eastward proximity to a stop and limited operational hours pose limits to its utility. Part of that problem is that Los Angeles is just not a ‘walking city’ and many areas are actively hostile to pedestrians (and I say this as someone who has walked around and between major parts of the area) so even if you are close to a stop ‘as the crow flies’ you may end up walking a few miles to get there. Buses can be useful but aren’t great and tend to be more off-schedule as the day goes on. Transit is good for getting from and to certain venues and locations like Dodgers Stadium or Hollywood & Vine, but not generally for getting around in the way that, say, the Chicago “L” system or the New York subway system is, and certainly isn’t comparable to the London Tube or other modern public transit system in high and medium density cities in developed nations. On the plus side, though, the Metro is generally quite clean and pretty safe. Definitely research your trip because instructions on how to get from one place to another that require exchanges are often unclear.

As for the o.p., I have to concur with posters that the daughter needs to plan on using taxis or (ugh) Uber/Lyft. Even if age weren’t prohibitive for renting, the traffic in Los Angeles is one of the worst aspects of living there, and while LA drivers are not the most hostile I’ve seen (hello, Boston!) they have a tendency to be inattentive or treat traffic laws as suggestions, which I suspect drivers from London would find to be outrageous. Parking is also a massive problem especially around some of the venues mentioned in the o.p. and unless you know where and how to park you can spend more time and money that it would be worth in terms of taxi/rideshare costs. I’d recommend making a list of things that she wants to see and grouping them together geographically to minimize time-in-transit.

For the places listed in the o.p., the Griffith Observatory is well worth doing (one of the best views in the city and generally on the short list to take people visiting the city), and especially if you can do it at night. The hike up to the Hollywood sign, on the other hand, is…not worth it. The Hollywood Walk of Fame is about 15 minutes of mild amusement. Searching out filming locations can be challenging just because so many things change that after a few years many of those locations may not exist, so definitely research that. There are a lot of beaches if you don’t mind the crowds but I agree that Santa Monica Pier and you can rent a bike and pedal down Venice Beach from there which would make a nice day out. There are a lot of good museums (LACMA, the Gettys, Expo Park) but if I were going to do just one I would recommend the Huntington Gardens and Library in Pasadena (also a popular filming location for anything set in botanical gardens so that could be a two-fer). There isn’t a lot in downtown that is tourism-friendly but if she’s going to try using the Metro Union Station is basically the central hub and is worth at least walking around in, and you can basically see anything else worth seeing within a walk of the Pershing Square and Civil Center stops on the Red Line. Chinatown is one stop up on the Gold Line but don’t expect to be too impressed (although there is good authentic Cantonese food as well as many other cuisines if you know where to find it).

It isn’t clear what support she’ll have from her host family but if you can it would probably be good to get hooked up with someone similar to her age and interests who could make specific recommendations and even facilitate some of the exploration. Despite how popular it is for tourism, Los Angeles isn’t really that great of of city to go and tour around in on your own recognizance beyond the obvious tourist traps like Disneyland, and most of the best stuff is in local neighborhoods like Los Feliz or outdoor activities like hiking in the various foothills and nearby mountains.

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She really, really needs to find out where she is staying. It’s a BIG city, There’s a big difference between, say, going from LAX to Marina Del Rey or Riverside when you aren’t driving, Let alone The Valley, the north valley, south bay area, Orange county…

Seconding the Huntington if she’ll be in the Pasadena area! I always go there when I am in LA since I staying in Pasadena. My sister’s a member and she always gets us in. Beautiful place to spend several hours. The OP’s daughter really has to know where she will be staying though, as that is roughly an hour’s drive from LAX, without traffic, to give an example.

It never rains in Southern California (they tell me).

It’s raining (well, sprinkling) right now.

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I highly recommend the beaches in Venice and Santa Monica.