My wedding, CFS, and my parents (long)

Warning: long and somewhat personal tale.

I’m getting married two weeks from tommorrow. It’s going to be a marrige for legal reasons - my girlfriend and I have been living together for three years now. We aren’t going to be having children. Being married won’t really change anything about our relationship - our main reason is to save money on taxes, and to get her on my health plan. (Hope this doesn’t sound to cynical - we really do love each other and plan to spend the rest of our life together, but never felt we needed any legal recognition from the state to do so).

My fiencee is a wedding videographer. She’s been making wedding videos for a decade, and I’ve been an assistant on many of her jobs. We’ve seen hundreds of marrige ceremonies, and the parties afterwards. We’re both pretty jaded about the whole thing, and really have no desire to have a big party associated with what is for us just a civil cerimony to change our legal status.

Here’s the biggie: my fiencee has chronic fatigue syndrom. She’s had to almost completely stop working for the last two years, and spent most of last year bed-ridden. She’s recovered now to the point where she can go shopping, clean the house, and do the occasional wedding job, but a few hours of work still knockes her out for days afterwards. This is the other reason we don’t want a party or a lot of people there - she doesn’t have the endurance and would rather rest. And I’m generally antisocial and don’t enjoy parties, especially when they’re in my honor.

So - our original plans were to treat the wedding like running en arrand - stop in at the judge’s office in the morning, go through the ceremony, and be done with it. No big deal. Simple, right?

Well, first her family wanted to have a get-together afterwards. Norhing special, just her parents, aunt and grandmother, and sister and brother-in-law, for a little party at her sister’s place. We warned them that she might have to leave early to go home and rest. Still no big deal.

Enter my parents. I know my parents, I grew up with them. I was tempted to not tell them till after the wedding was over, but my fiencee called them and invited them up. Big mistake. Before we know it they were putting together plans for a big fancy reception ceremony, with dozens of family members and guests invited - exactly what we didn’t want. When I called them and told them that we didn’t want a big deal made about any of this, and there wasn’t much sense in inviting family members from across the country for a 5 minute legal ceremony, and neither my fiencee or I had any interest in sitting through a reception party after having already taped hundreds of them, and that she would be likelt to pass out during an extende dparty, they got offended. At firsth they wouldn’t have anything more to do with it, wouldn’t even come to the wedding. My fiencee had to call them and explain again that we’d love to have them there, but we didn’t want a big party, before they agreed to come after all.

My parents called my brother and his wife and invited them to the wedding. I had already spoken with my brother prior to this, and we had both agreed that there wasn’t much point in their coming down (as he doesn’t own a car and never leaves New York anymore, and it’s not a big deal anyway), but my parents insisted on picking them up and driving him down. Ok, I don’t mind seeing my brother again, so we called up my future sister-in-law and warned her to expect two more people.

Then yesterday my dad called me and informed me that my uncle Kenny and his wife were also coming. What the hell? I was only vaugely aware I even had an uncle Kenny, having met him perhaps twice in my life when I was very young. I don’t even remember what this guy looks like, now my parents had went and invited him to what was supposed to be a small, informal party. They had already made their hotel reservations, and my dad wasn’t taking no for an answer.

Then today my mother called up my fiencee’s sister, got her answering machine, and left some kind of confused message about a “rehersal dinner”. Again - what the hell? We’re trying to call them back to find out what they’re arranging behind our backs here.

Two weeks to go, and this was supposed to be a short civil ceremony. When my brother got married, he gave my parents a day’s notice. Now I know why.

Whew! Andrew, mate I think you stuffed up there and it’s hard to see what to do without offending people.

It’s your wedding though and it should be how you guys want it. Do your parents not ‘believe’ in CFS? If it were me, I’d probably do what wouldn’t fatigue my partner - I would not go to rehearsal dinners or stuff like that but I might let my parents have a party as long as my partner could rest and didn’t have to exert herself to make other people happy.

And next time ;), don’t tell them.

I say tomorrow you get up, get the fiance, go out for lunch and get married on the way home. Then call up the parents and tell them the happy news :slight_smile:

Um.

Well.

It’s about time to tell mom and dad “No”.

No ceremony, no reception. We’re going to have a JOP service and we’re going to have dinner after. If you would like to come to court it’s going to be <here> at <this time>. When the service is over, we’re going <here> for lunch. Hope you can make it! :slight_smile:


My sister and (twice-married Harley-type) brother in law had no interest in a wedding. They did the Vegas drive-through thingy and had a small, immediate-friends-and-family reception a few weeks later.

IMHO? Change the ceremony bit to tomorrow or Monday, relax a few days, then have the reception thingy…AFTER making mum and daddy aware of the above.

Andrew? This is YOUR marriage. Not mom’s, not dad’s, and not Uncle Kenny’s. If Uncle Kenny insists on coming make sure he gets the bill for his meal. Or pass it off on mom.

[sub]Chique is a little bitter about this whole wedding thing so take all she has to say with a grain of salt

Chique also shouldn’t post from different time zones while trashed, so pick out the pearls from the porcine feces [/sub]

Unfortunatly, the county judge only does marriges once a month. Two weeks from now is the soonest we can get it done, unless we take a quick trip to Vegas.

My parents are really difficult to talk to. They treat everything unpleasant with denial, and it can be very difficult to convince them of something that doesn’t fit their worldview. Their attitidue to my fiance’s CFS is basically “She’ll be feeling better by then”.

I did just telephone them, cleared a few things up. If a simple civil cerimony is this much trouble, I’m really glad we didn’t go for the whole formal affair.

One word:
Elope.

I’m still waiting to hear how Chicken-Fried Steak fits into all this. Is it what they’re having at the rehearsal dinner?

Ohhhhhh, never mind.

You took the wrong approach with them.

The only important thing is that your fiancee cannot attend a lengthy party. The other reasons may sound legitimate to you, but they aren’t what is important, and they don’t recognize your parents’ needs. Putting the health problem at the end of a long list of reasons makes it sound like one more excuse - it got lost in the crowd.

What you need to do now is to determine exactly how long you and your bride are going to stay at the party and how much effort you are going to put into it beforehand (which should be none - it is other people who volunteered this, let them have the headaches). Then call your parents and explain to them that because of your brides health problems you are going to do exactly this. If they object point out that to do anything else would hurt their future daughter-in-law, and they wouldn’t want to do that, would they? (Guilt works both ways :smiley: ) On just previewing I noticed your parents reaction. If they say that again, I would say “Yes, and she could be worse, it would be a terrible thing if we had to cancel the party altogether. Stress tends to make these things worse, y’know.”

Then realize that the party isn’t as much for you as for them. You may feel that your life is not changing because of the wedding; but it is changing their lives, possibly in ways that you won’t understand for a long time. It may seem a waste of time for them to fly accross the country for a five minute ceremony, but this gives them a chance to meet (or spend time with) new in-laws, and an excuse to bring some family together that they don’t get to see much.

You’ve recognized that marriage is a legal and an economic relationship; it is also a social relationship - no matter how little the marriage affects you, it does represent a fundamental difference in your relationship as our culture perceives it. In the same way, weddings aren’t just a legal formality, they are a celebration of your love and commitment to your SO.

Just say “NO!”, my friend. Just say “NO!”.

Call your parents. Say “I love you guys. I hope you have a great time at our reception. Tell us how it went. We won’t be coming. If we’d wanted a reception, we would have arranged one. We’re getting married our way, so do what you want but don’t expect us to go along with it. But I do love you guys. Bye.”

Yours

Cazzle
(who isn’t getting married in Tasmania because her Nanna got mad, and who isn’t getting married in a church because she doesn’t want to offend the relatives of other religions and who isn’t getting married anywhere in particular at this point in time because no one likes anything she suggests, and she doesn’t like anything anyone else suggests.)

Hooooo boy. Parents. Damn parents.

I agree with the general feeling that you have to do what you have to do and if the parents don’t like it, well, they’ll just have to be offended and tough luck.

What I REALLY hate in these situations is when innocent third parties are dragged into this morass totally unsuspecting. I’m thinking of poor Uncle Kenny. I mean, let’s say you get tough and say, “Sorry, no party, no nothing, you started all this without asking me and now you’ll have to undo it” (or wherever else you draw the line). Uncle Kenny is going to be either un-invited (however you slice it it’s going to reflect poorly on you) or will somehow get word that he wasn’t supposed to be there and feel uncomfortable.

Whatever you end up doing, make a special point to call, sit down and visit with, or otherwise give a warm fuzzy to Uncle Kenny and the brother and all the other people your parents felt compelled to drag into their little control-world, so that in the end it’s clear that you hold no ill-will to any of them.

I’ve seen this shit happen before and it makes my blood boil.

[nobody asked me]Mr. Rilch and I have been married for two years and a bit, and lived together for five years before that. Add in the courtship and that’s a total of eight years.

His parents and my parents still have not met.[/nobody asked me]

Some parents really do see weddings as “family events” where they have a chance to entertain family and friends in the style they’d like to, even though they’re not the ones getting married. I’m not saying it’s excusable, I’m just saying this is terribly common. I had a small wedding without the standard reception set-up, and have a webpage about it which people stumble across. All this to say I hear from a lot of couples all the time who are in situations not unlike yours.

Here is my suggestion. Have your quiet wedding. Insist it stay a quiet wedding. Then allow your parents to throw whatever sort of party/reception/do they want, in a few weeks after the wedding or whenever it’s mutually convenient.

We ended up doing TWO of these, one for each set of parents. I’ll tell you more about them in case it sparks a way you can sell it to your parents. My parents didn’t really gave a rat’s ass (they loved our dinky wedding) but since my sister had gotten married recently too, and it was their own anniversary a few weeks after our wedding, they decided to have a party at an art museum in my hometown when we were gonna be there for Xmas anyway. It was nice. Real casual. No dancing, no gifts, none of that. But a nice chance for nearby relatives and my parents’ friends to meet my husband and my sister’s husband.

The other reception was held a full two months later, at my inlaws’ home. They had a catered sit-down dinner, fixed their house up gorgeous, had flowers up the wazoo, la la la. Still no dancing, no wedding cake. But a nice chance for them to entertain their friends in the manner they wanted to. We brought wedding and honeymoon photos for people to leaf through.

In both cases, it wasn’t “our” party, it was theirs. We just showed up as the guest of honor. We didn’t care and weren’t consulted about the menus, the “colors,” the guest list, the invitation style. The parents did all that, and were happy to have it “their” party. It was wonderful and relaxing and couldn’t have been easier. And both parties were lovely.

I’m sure my parents wished they never had to meet my ex-in-laws. Come to think of it, so did I.