Better yet - do away with the cards and go with implants. Or maybe forehead tattoos. What could possibly be the harm?
I think that an inherent element of the concept of “freedom” so dear to many (most?) Americans, is the ability to be free from government to the greatest extent possible, other than to the extent YOU wish to give up that freedom for certain purposes.
A nation of people with bangs.
American identity documents are issued by regional authorities (eg: driver’s license), with the exception of the social security card for working citizens and the federal passport for travelers. There is a federal framework as to the minimum requirements to present regional identification for federal purposes (the aforementioned Real ID Act).
Also of relevance, most voter identification laws are also regional. The federal government does not require voter identification except when initially verifying a new voter who registers by mail (as opposed to in person).
~Max
Okay, granted, but… people don’t treat the individual states as though their borders tend to matter very much. Going from Tennessee to Kentucky (or, for that matter, from Maine to Arizona) is seen less as “traveling from one country to another” and more “moving across the country”. And this causes problems when your ID in one state suddenly isn’t good in another state for whatever stupid reason. This is one of those things I really don’t like about federalism - instead of one bureaucracy to deal with, now you have 50.
Hell, even our developing-world assescan manage it…
I just wish they’d roll this and the driver’s license into one card.
Right, that is how it is supposed to be. The freedom to move between states is considered a right of the people protected by Article IV of the Constitution.
We do have the Real ID act for federal purposes, but if your state doesn’t comply (there are good reasons not to) then yeah, it’s a pain. A birth certificate + drivers license or birth cirtificate + voter registration + Form DS-71 (identity witness affidavit) can net you a passport, though.
~Max
When did you have an ID not honored by a different state?
The whole issue will soon be moot.
Facial recognition will not be stopped.
It helps that you folks in Europe have better/more secure/less expensive/etc. access to the web/cloud/internet.
Here in the states the whole thing is a mess and identity theft rampant.
The harm is that you chip possession and pets/animals, and I don’t want to be the government’s chattel (that I might already be is arguable, but I’m still trying to resist).
Forcible tattooing by the government is a little to close to Nazis tattooing numbers on people for my comfort.
Or was that intended as sarcasm? I can’t always tell.
When was the last time you heard somebody seriously say “What could possibly be the harm?”
Have you ever worked in corporate America? It’s a weekly thing, there.
Yikes. I assume pianos fall regularly.
The OP has been banned.
And that’s going on his Permanent Record, too!
Real ID is a stupid racist idea and so is this. The only reason is to hurt minorities, those that dont have the money or records to get one of these. And so they wont be able to vote, making the GOP happy and they become second class non-people.
This is a racist Republican Jim Crow idea.
You do know that getting all the various birth certificate records by county is simply impossible right? So people without a copy will have to pay to get a copy- if they can. because of course native Americans, and other peoples dont always have them. The poor, the minorities.
This is a idea that would make the hate filled racist minds of the GOP chortle with glee as they have yet another reason to bring back Jim Crow laws.
And of course - “saved in pdf” means hackable. Easily hackable.
Bad idea.
No: when it comes to banking, they tend to be outside of That Country Where People Still Use Checks.
Less expensive, my ass, even before you account for income differential. And if by “better” you mean “faster” excuse me while I ROFL. As for identity theft oh, it happens…
In a prior RealID thread it was brought up that not all birth records are by county in the US. Apparently, some states (Texas was one named) do it by state, New York City by the borough, there are about 40 cities that are not located in a county, and why this matters is that a state like Texas (or at least the DMV people who issue RealID’s) seem incapable of imagining that not every does things exactly like they do, leading to government minions in one state refusing to acknowledge the official documents of another location as real and legitimate. Which is also a very real problem for people trying to obtain RealID’s.
(Thank Og that the minion doing my RealID didn’t actually read my birth certificate, otherwise she would likely have objected that no county was listed… as indeed, I was not born in a county, having emerged into existence in one of those “independent cities” I mentioned. I had enough other problems getting that piece of plastic.)