“Every single one”? Ok - how about this one.
Or maybe it is not a good enough for you because it was not “highly-publicized”?
“Took till now”? This is AFAIK the first official release about the incident. http://www.fuquay-varina.org/community-information/news/special-notices/2014/10/08/town-statement-regarding-circumstances-of-oct.-6-event/
If you can find a prior official release that doesn’t mention threatening physical violence, please link to it.
Yes, Terr, I used that qualifier for a reason. I’ll acknowledge that this week people are paying attention to the senseless death of David Hooks, who was killed when police raided his home based on an incredibly stupid tip about drugs. So if a SWAT team busts down your door and you have a gun, you’re probably dead regardless of your race.
By way of comparison, here’s a quick partial list of the killings or violent arrests of black people that have gotten significant media attention since July 2014.) The list also includes some Oklahoma cops who preyed on black women, so if you don’t count that, it’s only five deaths and three attacks. No wait- six deaths. I forgot John Crawford, who was shot to death for holding a toy gun in a Wal-Mart. But hey, that baby in Georgia survived.)
In this thread people have linked to two other stories that included statements from the police about this incident. I quoted from both of them, which should’ve been a hint. Somehow the police were clear about the fact that he used profanity but didn’t mention he threatened to hurt them until they needed to get their house in order.
The link I gave had no SWAT team. By the way - what do you think is the reason that the incident in the link I gave was not that “highly publicized”?
They didn’t include statements. They paraphrased statements. You have no idea what the statements actually included. If you do, please give a link to the actual statements.
Was it that the police didn’t mention it or that the media didn’t report it.
The NZ media article I posted upthread was just a copy-and-paste from the AP. When did the AP first publish the story and how many times has the AP altered/corrected the story? Should the first draft of a story be the only acceptable version?
Eventually, there will be official reports from many of those involved. Those may be followed by the criminal or civil trial versions. Was Currie “threatening and belligerent” and didn’t follow orders, or was he “profane, threatening and belligerent”? Did the wording come from different reports or just from different media outlets?
I don’t look very much like my mother or grandparents and had someone pointed to a picture of them and then said “you don’t fit” while I was 18, I’d have certainly grown extremely belligerent.
Whichever cop said that was a complete asshole and almost certainly a racist.
I’m wondering why didn’t one of the idiot cops just ask him if he had a key to the house, which he almost certainly did, which would have ended the situation then and there.
That’s fine. Now, is there a list somewhere of the killings or violent arrests of non-black people (that may not have gotten “significant media attention”) during the same period? You know, to compare the incidence rates?
I was talking about the Hooks case. Give it a look if you haven’t. It’s a stupid, sad story.
You tell me. That should be fun.
doorhinge’s post includes an actual quote, not a paraphrase, and it’s a quote not found in the press release. It either comes from an interview or a separate statement, and the same is likely true of the story the OP linked to. You are vainly attempting to split hairs.
I believe my ‘I demand you prove this isn’t a coincidence’ post addresses this.
I thought the foster parents left the door unlocked for him, so he probably didn’t have a key.
So what has been reported so far?
- Neighbours report a break in, black male they don’t recognise entering home of white family
- Cops respond and confront said teenager
- Teenager says he lives there, cops ask for proof
- Teenager produces ID that actually has a different address on it, cops remain unconvinced
- Teenager becomes “volatile, profane and threatened physical violence toward the police officer”.
That appears to be the sequence according to the reports linked in this thread.
While it’s still early as research goes there’s some interesting work being done at Washington State
They show some counterintuitive resultss. They took longer before shooting at black suspects and made fewer errors in deciding to shoot when the suspect was black. They failed to shoot armed blacks more often than armed whites. Overall there was bias in favor of blacks in the actual deadly force decision.
Why might the numbers look so bleak then? Bias against blacks may lead to more interactions with them by LEOs. Lower economic class is associated with higher crime rates and being minority. Combine those and you have more total interactions with police. Even with a lower error rate, more deadly force decisions could still produce more deadly mistakes.
Don’t worry. In a day he will have, and he’ll also have an outstanding warrant, which is what they were really there about. All completely on the up and up and totally unsuspicious.
[Edit - hah, that’s what I get for responding before I’m halfway down the last page. It’s kind of depressing being right…]
this is world news - so that would be a no
Yep. I notice that they’ve added to their story, according to the new links from Terr – now he wasn’t just ‘belligerent and threatening’, but he actively resisted and struck an officer’s arm. Very convenient for them, as the heat has increased, so does the victim’s supposed violence.
If the cops are telling the truth, and have been consistent in their reports as opposed to the media reporting, and the kid was aggressive and threatening, is there any possible way this comes out in a satisfactory way to you?
Yanno Shodan, when you’re being unreasonable compared to Smapti, it’s time to reevaluate your life.
Of course. As I’ve said, I’m well aware that some individual examples of apparent police misconduct against black people are probably not actual misconduct inside the larger trend. That doesn’t mean it’s not appropriate to be skeptical of police accounts and be aggressive in criticism when there is such apparent misconduct.
I wasn’t able to access your link but I did find this one, which I think references the same study. It notes the following with regards to brain electroencephalograph responses:
And while, for the simulation, testees took slightly longer to shoot black simulated armed suspects than simulated white ones, this could easily be explained by the fact that they’re in a test and they know they’re in a test (and they don’t want to be the guy that shoots black people too quickly), considering that their brain waves give a significantly greater “threat response” to black suspects than to non-black suspects.
Yes, pretty much.
Everyone was set up for a nice comfortable RO thread, where Left Hand of Dorkness will claim that any report of a black guy breaking into a house owned by white people is just racism and the police shouldn’t do anything because that’s not evidence, and Marley23 will claim that burglars claiming to be the owners of the places they break into is completely unheard of and then lie about saying it when it is pointed out that it isn’t unheard of and Colibri will fly into a rage because having me laugh at him reminds him too much of the time his mother caught him jerking off into the panties he stole off the next door neighbor’s clothesline.
OK, maybe I am projecting a little on the last part, but I stand by the rest.
Regards,
Shodan
While everyone else is engaged in the predictable flame war, I’m just relieved they only pepper sprayed him. When black people are being shot at for the crime of actually doing what the police tell them to do, while on camera, it’s a bloody miracle this young man wasn’t blown away.