NCIS--Ellie Bishop

I don’t think all of those were released in the US, unless I’m quite mistaken.

Probably not, but I have no idea. I tend to slurp up a lot of UK content from a variety of ahem “sources” :wink:

I’m glad you told me. I’m going to get them all asap. I may sleep with [del]him[/del] them under my pillow.

Returning thread to NCIS.

I do applaud the producers for waiting this far into the season to bring Ellie into the picture. This way we’ve all “grieved” along with Tony for Ziva’s departure, and now we can move on. I don’t think she’s a realistic character, but who watches these escapist adventures for realism?

So far, I’m not a Bishop fan. She seems very immature, actual age notwithstanding. We already have Abby, the annoyingly hyper Pollyanna; we don’t need another juvenalized eccentric genius.

Ziva’s original incarnation was Kate. :wink:

My bold.

Bingo!

She was actually Ziva’s opposite, a Good Catholic Girl who frowned every time Tony made a suggestive remark (the wet t-shirt contest notwithstanding). After her death, her ghost visited Tony in a Catholic school uniform.

A Female Sheldon Cooper joins the ranks of NCIS!
Not a fan of this Bishop character, reminds me so much of Sheldon Cooper on “Big Bang Theory”. If I wanted to watch a socially awkward, ill-fitting, nerd with an idyllic mind and a touch of OCD and ADD, I’ll watch BBT thank you very much.
I agree with others who commented that since the addition of this character (IMO) It has been Gibbs who has been mostly affected… as he is letting things slide whereas others in the past he’d call 'em on it if not out and out slap to the back of the head. The reliance on this character, overshadowing and minimizing the others not only seem an act of desperation on the part of the writers, but also a lack of respect for the actors not to mention the history of NCIS up to this point. Agent Lee was more fun than Bishop, I just dont get this! I’ve tried the new season and the new character. Not liking it.

Agree 100%. It’s like you were inside my head reading my thoughts during last night’s show. You weren’t, were you? I was wearing my tinfoil hat.

I don’t like her self-conscious adolescent eccentricity, sitting on the floor/desk instead of at the desk, her super-furrowed brow because she hasn’t solved the crime on her own, the way she didn’t watch Gibbs’ interrogation of the suspect, something that presumably she’ll need to learn…I guess her thing is that she doesn’t know how to be part of a team. She’s like an analyst raised from a pup by wolves with no social skills or table manners.

Tony has faded into the background. Tim’s imitation of Gibbs’ stoicism was tiresome. Delilah* can hardly fade from the scene at this point, but is her rehab going to be an ongoing plot point?

This (according to them) is the most-watched show on TV. Seems like tampering with a winning formula would be…well…oh yeah: STUPID.

*One of the greatest names ever. It’s just fun to say it.

Don’t get me wrong. It wasn’t tiresome that Tim was traumatized-- hell, I was traumatized. Just that he handled it like Gibbs. Of course, any boyfriend/girlfriend of an NCIS-er is doomed to disease, disfigurement, and departure (with or without death).

I loved agent Lee.

What’s worse is that Gibbs, Very Special Agent DiNozzo & McGee seem to stand around watching her sit on the floor while she’s the only one working. What happened to Gibbs barking out instructions and the team members each doing their thing?

Egads, last night’s episode hit a new low. There was way too much of the following:

…and nothing of what made/makes the show good.

What I don’t get is why anyone would take a highly successful show and change the formula. This Ellie character is completely full of herself and completely lacking in humor or charm. The writers are basically having her emasculate Gibbs, DiNozzo, and McGee. Possibly even Leon. The best thing about this show used to be the ensemble and the interplay among them. Now the men are like plastic non-action figures who wait for her permission to take a piss (permission that she denied Tony last night).

I think that scene was supposed to mirror the time Ziva did the same thing to Tony - but it fell flat.

I’m hoping now that the char is an official ‘probie’ that the focus will return to the original formula - but I was kinda hoping she would die in the line of fire last nte.

more than kinda, really.

When Ziva followed Tony into the men’s room it was sexy because Ziva was sexy and provocative and because of the chemistry between them. Ellie ambushed him in the john because of her inability to control her global brilliance, and she had involuntarily noted that he peed every two hours. Blech.

I bailed on the episode in a combo of boredom and disgust when they went in to interrogate the main bad guy (not the first sort-of bad guy). And then, in a fit of pique, I erased it from my DVR. So… how did it end?

agreed on the difference(s) between Ziva and Ellie bathroom scenes - I was simply stating it was a callback to that one - that failed.
‘bad guy’ (un-rememberable name) - feigns illness - Ellie runs out of the room to get assistance (leaving door open) - badguy takes out first marine - punches ellie on her return - shoots second marine gaurd - jams the door - then takes ellie hostage.

Gibs saw ‘part’ of it from the monitor - then badguy/ellie have conversation - Gibbs realizes something ellie doesn’t - starts playing recording of badguy sister pleading with badguy to live - distracts badguy - they get thru the door - gibs pops around corner and shoots badguy dead.

On return to NCIS - Gibbs calls Ellie a probie (she’s now officially a member, not just a ‘go between’) - she writes down rule 11 on a sticky and goes home.

Sorry, I meant to sound like I was backing you up.

Dang. It would have been so easy to fix what ails the program right here. :smack:

I have to think her character is a effort to appeal to a younger audience instead of the oldsters (like myself) who have been NCIS’ mainstay.

I think its an attempt to get that quirky char - ala ‘Perception’ and a couple of others - that are ‘outside the box’ - her personality might work for an analyst - I don’t see it working as a field agent.

One of the nice things about Kate - being a profiler - and not an ‘investigator’ (at the beginning) is that her skills brought something usefull both on the ground and in the office. Similarly for Ziva. Ellie? not so much - we already have quirky (Abbie) and (maybe its the actress) - I just don’t buy her being all that ‘gifted’ - based on char’s actions in her introductory episodes, I would not trust her in a true fight.

Had SHE taken out badguy - I might have thought differently - but so far - nope - not getting it.

I think Gibbs has been replaced by pod-Gibbs. The Real Gibbs would never have left Bishop alone (with a red-shirt guard) and the bad guy, unless it was as part of an ingenious trap to catch the bad guy.

This. Plus, I find it really, really hard to believe that the guard would be so stupid as to fall for the old “Oh, my God, he’s sick!” routine. He should have (a) backed off and drawn his weapon, (b) gotten Ellie out of the room, and (c) stood in the doorway with his weapon trained on the terrorist until backup and a medical team arrived. Or, better yet, gotten out of the room himself and slammed the door shut until help arrived.

I like her WAAAAY better than Ziva. Why Ziva was a character for more than one season was beyond me. I used to fast forward over all her banter with Tony. Seemed like she was there to educate viewers all about Israel and its methods in criminal investigation. (YAWN) Kind of like hearing the “true” statistics that were spouted off at the beginning of every SVU episode. (DOUBLE YAWN, Zzzzzz…)

Computer nerd is always sexier. Only thing that bugs me-- why do people dye their hair but never their eyebrows? Just need a little comb, girl! :slight_smile:

Well, this must represent the demographic they’re trying to appeal to.