Well clearly the original quote got it wrong, He should have added ‘gullible’ as well.
One created a monopoly on shitty software.
The other was a pretentious asshole who created pretentious mobile devices for assholes.
Let’s not forget Mark Zuckerberg who invented a way for every annoying person from high school to annoy you forever.
Travis Kalanick created an unprofitable ride-share company known for its creepy rape-culture. Probably from an idea he had one time driving around looking for women to be creepy with.
Yeah, it’s not really as cut and dried as they portray it on TV and movies. At least not at my elementary/middle/high school. I was friends/neighbors with these two brothers growing up who were huge into “nerd culture” stuff. Even by 1980s standards. Role playing games, videogames, computers, toy collections, prog rock, Heavy Metal (music and magazine), anime, the biggest comic book collection I’ve ever seen. But they were also into varsity sports like hockey, football, and track & field.
The older brother was pretty well liked. The younger one, not as much. But that was because he tended to act a little weird and jerky. In contrast, the older brother was just this really nice big guy.
Anyhow, the point is I don’t think people like or dislike people because of their interests. At least, not beyond those interests serving as a sort of shared connection.
Nerds are smart guys to programs computers and build robots
Geeks are people who are way too into one thing like comics or games
Dorks are the ones with no social skills
You can mix and match from the three categories. A geek is way into movies but a Geek/Dork is going to bore you with talking about the movies and missing the social cues that no one gives a rat’s ass.
Until a bully comes along and takes it from you.
I think a big difference between a few decades ago and now is the quality of the product. I watched cartoons and read comic books as a kid. I pretty much stopped as a teenager because I lost interest. But I’m now back to doing both because the current-day product is so much better. But if I go and look at a cartoon or comic book that’s supposed to be a classic, I find I don’t have any more interest than I did as a teenager.
Betty: Oh, you were wonderful. Are all nerds as good as you?
Lewis: Yes.
Betty: How come?
Lewis: 'Cause all jocks ever think about is sports, all we ever think about is sex.
The Internet has greatly magnified the tendency, which has always existed, for like-minded individuals to bloviate about their interests.
So what if sports or superheroes are hugely popular. American culture is a pretty big and broad piece of tapestry. There may be a lot of superhero movies or books about zombies, but it’s not like other topics get ignored. I am old enough to find the differentiation between geeks and nerds self-serving. I never felt persecuted for liking Tolkien, trigonometry or They Might Be Giants at a time when geekdom could have consequences. Of course, I played some sports tolerably well and had as many friends as I wanted. Other parts of geekdom such as superheroes held little interest to me. I liked Star Wars and Shatner enough, but not to the point of obsession or even thinking the later efforts were very good.
“The mythical angry nerd” exists in the sense of being intolerant to the opinions of others. Maybe even thinking the last Star Wars movies were incredibly brilliant. People in general seem somewhat angrier than in the past as anonymous trolling and politicians and media folks pushing the limits have eroded some degree of politeness or mutual respect or common sense of humanity. It’s not all about you. Or Ironman. Or the zombie apocalypse.
After thinking back about it a little more, I started wondering how dorks and spazzes fit into all this…
That quote is from a scene in a hateful, vile, depraved and bigoted movie (“Revenge Of The Nerds”) that glamourizes, trivializes and positively celebrates rape by deception.
“She’s not that kind of girl, Booger.”
“Why, does she have a penis?”
So here’s a question - what’s the deal with the stereotypical “Silicon Valley tech startup office culture”? I have a phone interview tomorrow with an analytics company and to prepare, they asked me to watch a couple videos about their office. It was the typical mix of goofy 20-somethings dressed like slobs in T-shirts with the foosball tables and beer in the office and all of them jammed together surrounded by white boards covered in Post-it notes (Kanban I presume).
Like why does every company that deal with computers or data adopt that style? Like they are trying to ease everyone into the working world by making their office look like the weird “quiet dorm” in college that all the frat guys used to throw eggs at. Other industries have smart people. They don’t dress like that.
Almost nobody actually likes wearing a dress shirt and tie. Wearing a dress shirt and tie in no way leads to one creating better software. Highly-skilled software developers are in high demand. Given that, like anyone else, they don’t like wearing dress clothes, you stand a better chance of attracting the top talent by not requiring them to wear dress clothes.
Later said Bully’s credit score is mysterious in the teens…
Anecdotally, at another technology firm where I worked, we had two guys who only wore suits and ties. That was just their thing.
Personally, I think you should only have to wear a suit if you get paid enough to buy suits that cost around $1000 or more (not counting sales and whatnot). I think cheaper suits tend to look cheap. So if you can’t have your people wear nice suits, then there really is no point in having them wear suits at all.
That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t look put together.
Similarly, when I was in grad school, a few of the other students decided that, since grad students can dress like slobs whenever we like, we ought to have dress-up Fridays. And so they wore three-piece suits and so on every Friday.
Rejecting rules just for the sake of rejecting them is a not uncommon attitude among nerds.
They won’t know what to do with it, and they will probably end up just breaking it.
No one claimed that nerds and geeks were nice people. They frequently ARE creepy, maladjusted, socially awkward…
And some of them became filthy, filthy rich.
People who found multi-billion dollar companies are rarely nice guys. Remember, while Gates, Jobs and Zuckerberg may have their issues, at least they’re not Henry Ford.
Right, and now they are using their wealth and power to infuse their creepy, maladjusted, awkward nerd-rage into every aspect of American culture.
As opposed to the creepy, maladjusted, awkward jock-rage and creepy, maladjusted, awkward frat-rage and creepy, maladjusted, awkward preppy-rage and creepy, maladjusted, awkward macho-rage that previous filthy rich people have infused.
You left out another category: wonks.
Wonks are like nerds and geeks except they’re into government, law, and politics. You can easily spot them since they’re the ones who watch C-SPAN for fun.