::reads again:: Oh, you mean terrorist attacks. Not genocides. Okay, fair enough. Still, bad things happen, and no amount of wallowing will stop them entirely.
No, but here in Canada we mark on it on July 11 (7/11 everyone gets a Slurpee).
This is not to be confused with our Thanksgiving which also comes earlier than the one in the US (maybe because we have less to be thankful for?)
By the time US thanksgiving rolls around, Canada is neck-deep in snow and ice. Most Canadians are in hibernation by mid-November.
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(Scotland, Connecticut - Wikipedia).
Admittedly, I’ve no idea which side my ancestors fought for. Most likely they were peasant farmers toiling in the mud with no idea what was going on over half a days walk away from their village.
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Defensive… over here we get many people who claim some degree of “Scottishness” banging on about freedom and the Wars of Independance/the “45” whom on further investigation prove to have no connection to the wars, or were fighting on the side that were in cahoots with the English. It seems to be a source of shame if the ancestors fought in the wrong colors.
Friends from the Clan’s society over the water tell me it is the same in Scotland. Lowlanders claiming Highland heritage and later English immigrant families claiming some kind of link to the old Highlands without having any name or genetic link to those long suffering people who faced such brutal tragedy in the clearances.
Hell, it is why so many of us live over the water.
And as an ammendum - where you are born is really an accident of the lives of your parents, it doesn’t really link you to the land in any deep spiritual way.
Frankly mate Cinnamon and i both have the surname Sutherland, our ancestors were highlanders who fought on the side of the Scots (admittedly when it came to the highland clearances some didn’t shine so bright)
Sans Peur
… Nothing odder than people claiming to be Scottish.
I was naming a file yesterday and “September 11” jumped out at me. Blah. Glad that’s passed.
As an “ammendum”, no-one in Scotland gives a fuck about what you or your ilk think, so take your shitty opinions and ram them up your hoop. “Over the water”, for fucks sake.
Don’t really want to continue the hijack, but…
Brilliant. An American lecturing us Scots on whether we’re really Scottish or not. News flash: no-one over here really gives a flying fuck about clan societies. We know we’re Scottish. And we know whether we are patriotic about the Battle of Stirling Bridge or not.
Cinnamon Imp is Scottish. So am I. We have met in a pub in Glasgow and discussed important Scottish things like square sausage, and salt’n’vinegar versus salt’n’sauce. And trust me, that links us to the land in a deep, spiritual way.
Let me ask you this: what the fuck is a sporran for?
There’s a decent article on 9/11 related stuff at Cracked.com today
lunch bag
Smuggling hip flasks of whisky into weddings where there’s no free bar, obviously.
Keys, mobile, money, fags.
I wish I could forget, but I never will, and I’ll never stop hating those who want to see America destroyed.
Lots of you are a heckuva lot smarter than I am, but I’m appalled by the heartless stupidity I’m reading here.
Maybe 9/11 is a NY thing, and others just don’t get it. 
Well, yeah. How much does it affect you when 50 people are killed in a fire in des Moines? Empathy is always about US to some degree.
I’m appalled by the heartless stupidity of America’s response to 9/11:
The killing of hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis, throwing away the ltves of thousands of yoing Americans in the process of doing that, setting up the largest most intrusive surveillance state the world has ever seen, etc. etc.
Go ahead and mourn your dead. That’s right and proper, but calling the day that made all the evil America did afterwards possible “Patriot day” is offensive as hell.
never mind…
Okay so first of all - I wasn’t directly affected by 9-11. I was hundreds of miles away and the only friend I had who was close was actually running late that day and thus was not in his office when the buildings came down. That said, the images of that day and the fact that the media replay them every year means that every year I run through the memories of that day. It’s still horrifying and his life is still completely different. Better in some ways but with a huge underlying feeling of guilt because he wasn’t where he was supposed to be with his coworkers and friends who didn’t make it.
In contrast another friend had a near death experience a couple of years after 9-11 but without the constant media reminders it’s been easier for her to move on with her life. She was actually injured but survived so had a harder time up front but when talking about our mutual friend from NY we’ve agreed that she’s grateful that family and friends remember but the world doesn’t.
So in my personal anecdotal experience it would seem that it would be better for all concerned if we would remember but the media would quit reminding us and demanding that those who are not intimately connected remember too.