New "Counter-Clinton Library" - GOP sour grapes, a counter-balance or Pandora's box?

[JohnBckWLD]

John LeBoutillier, a former (1-term) conservative GOP Congressman (the youngest in the history of the House) from NY’s 6th district (Far Rockaway, Queens), author of “Harvard Hates America,” contributor to NewsMax, et. al. has announced the final touches on the opening of the "Counter-Clinton Library." It should be open for business 6 months prior to the ribbon cutting over at the official William J. Clinton Presidential Library, just down the block in Little Rock, AK.

Whether you consider LeBoutillier[ul][li]an idiot[]a maverick[]a spoil-sport or a prophet,[/ul] you have to admit he is breaking new ground. Either breaking ground or the the proverbial chops. He appears to have a sense of humor. As a freshmen he compared the then Speaker of the House, Tip O’Neill to the Congress, saying both were “fat, old and out of control.” Obviously, protocol & manners aren’t high on his list of priorities. [/li]
According to the Counter Clinton Library website, the lease has been signed, private fund-raising is full throttle and the 16 exibit rooms (with such names as: Hillary Hall of Shame, Travel Gate Scandal, National Insecurity Hall, It Takes a Village, Gifts, Casualties, Domestic “Affairs,” Impeachment Story, Pardons for Dollars will be open by the Fall of 2003.

The contents, such as Dick Morris’ minutes of his private meetings with the Chief exec, don’t bother me. Maybe, (doubtful, but maybe) some of the “Counter” library contents will have some sort of historical value.

I personally wouldn’t oppose anyone’s right to express their views, whether they be pro, or anti Clinton. On the other hand, I’m not certain this doesn’t start a “sour-grapes” slippery slope. There are plenty of partisans & ideologues (you don’t even have to look past these boards to find them) who now would be very justified in erecting a “Read my Ass Lips Counter-Bush 41 Library” or a “Diagnosed With Alzheimer’s 11 Years To Late Anti-Reagan Library”. Where does it end? Will the Conservatives then counter a “He deserved the Bullet in Dallas, Counter-JFK Library” right on Cape Cod?

Nowhere to my knowledge, has anyone ever opened an “anti-library”. Especially one so close to the official, tax-payer financed, presidential library.

Should the Counter Library open?
Is the uncivil tone between partisans becoming unbearable?What’s next? Is the the 1st of many?

There is no right answer here, I’m afraid.

In my opinion, all Presidential Libraries use spin and propaganda to but the best light on their subject. Maybe, at a minimum, people will start to ask,

“Why the hell does the taxpayer subsidize Presidential Libraries in the first place?”
That may be a good start.

[JonScribe]

Ah, let him go ahead.

But, what were those three little words we heard repeatedly in Florida after the 2000 election?

Oh, I know.

Get over it.

[Kimstu]

JBW: *On the other hand, I’m not certain this doesn’t start a “sour-grapes” slippery slope. *

It doesn’t seem to be about sour grapes so much as a self-declared mission “to stop Hillary from becoming President and ruining our country once and for all!”.

The so-called Mainstream Media, which gave the Clintons a pass for all their misbehaviors while they were in office, [yeah, you never read anything bad about Clinton in the papers, did you? :rolleyes:] are certain to let Bill and Hillary get away with lying about their misdeeds now, too. Most of the media want to see Hillary become President and they aren’t going to do anything to derail her.

IMHO this is kind of tinfoil-hat stuff, but hey, it’s a free country.

This part was funny, though:

Unlike previous retired presidents who use their presidential libraries to store their memorabilia and offer students and scholars a repository of papers for scholarly study, Bill Clinton is in a desperate race to change his legacy. He wants to use his library to literally alter his reputation – from one of impeachment and disgrace - to one of respectability and statesmanship.

“Unlike previous retired presidents”? Have these folks ever heard of, say, Richard Nixon?

[Tejota]

Well, technically, Nixon didn’t retire.

[elucidator]

Hell, yes! Let a hundred flowers bloom, let a thousand schools of thought contend! Lets get all, I mean all of the dirt about Bubba and the Ice Queen! Every little dribble of possible scandal, everything! Transcripts of kinky sex in the Lincoln Bedroom, arguments over Chelsea’s report card. Bring it on!

And then, could we finally get Our Leader to let us have a peek at the Reagan papers? And long as we’re at it, the papers of his Texas governor years, that he stashed out of reach.

Oh, yeah! Let’s do it!

[I_am_Sparticus]

It’s a free country, he should enjoy his little propaganda-palozza. He might not like Nixon, Reagan and Bushista museums though.

[NaSultainne]

I’m waiting for someone to grasp the concept that a joke made amongst compadres, if translated into larger-than-life reality, is massive overkill. I mean, c’mon. The first time I heard it, I was sure it was another in the neverending list of drive-by snipes at Clinton. Good for a quick smile, nothing more. Now it seems to have developed a following, and the monster is growing at an alarming rate.

Damn. There’s always someone to ratchet up the antagonism.

[elucidator]

I see the catch here. You pay five dollars to stroll through the Clinton Museum, and then they charge you ten dollars so you don’t have to go through the Reagan Museum.

[Menocchio]

Gee,

That’s just dumb. Of course Clinton’s library will spin things his way. so did Bush the Elder’s and, when in the fullness of time, so will Bush the younger’s.

LeBoutillier has every right to do it, of course, but he shouldn’t. Not because it would set a dangerous precedent (though it may). But because it’s just plain tacky.

Get over it. He’s out of office. Sure, run a candidate against Hillary. Heck, start planning now. But when your party effectively controls both Congress and the White House, I’d think you’d have better things to do than whine about an ex-president.

[NaSultainne]

Does anyone else keep a mental blackboard going of all the ‘dings’ from each side? Like everytime I hear someone on the left say “Oh, Bush theselected president” or using the term “Bushistas” or “Junior” or some such and thinking to yourself “That’s one”. And the same thing on the right when I hear someone say, well, you know, whatevertheysay about Clinton or Hillary or Daschle or anybody else, and thinking “There’s one for that side”. Seems like the blackboard is just plum full of chalk marks already. Enough, people!

How 'bout we tackle some real problems and see if there really is a principled compromise possible. Doesn’t Social Security need to be fixed? How far do we or should we go with Saddam before war becomes necessary? How much should senior citizens expect the government to pay for prescription drug coverage?

Frankly, I’m sick of the finger pointing, and the casting of aspersions from each side. Neither side has a lock on truth.

[elucidator]

No, lets go for the Total Library, with an edge. We hire, say Ken Starr, Ann Coulter, etc. and give them complete subpoena power to get every singles dirty detail on the Clinton Administration…

And then, its our turn.

Bring it on!

[sleestak]

Well, the big question is simple:

Which Library is going to have Monicas little blue dress on display?

d&r:::::

Slee

[Dewey_Cheatem_Undhow]

A library in New York dedicated to the sleazier aspects of the Clinton presidency? Feh, this isn’t political – it’s an attempt to use the x% rule for sex shops in NYC.

“Yes, 80% of our material is sexual, but the remaining 20% are memos from Dick Morris.”

N.B. – the x% rule (and I forget the exact figure) allowed shops to avoid classification as “sexually oriented” if a certain percentage of their merchandise was nonsexual, and thus to avoid a lot of Giuliani-era regulations designed to close them down. All IIRC, of course.)

[december]

Clintons’ critics plan 2 nd library
BY ELISA CROUCH

As former president Clinton embarks on ambitious plans for his post-presidency, so too, do his detractors.

A group of outspoken Clinton critics announced last week their intent to build an unofficial version of Clinton’s presidential library in Little Rock, filled with rooms such as The Hillary Hall of Shame, Pardons for Dollars and National Insecurity Hall.

It will be focused on scandal and “the truth,” which is something they believe the Clinton library will lack. “This isn’t a personal vendetta against the Clintons at all,” said Richard Erickson, the Houston businessman behind the “Counter Clinton Library” idea. “It is a quest for truth. It’s not to hurt anybody. It’s to enlighten them.”

http://www.nwanews.com/adg/story_national.php?storyid=14919

[CaptMurdock]

“It’s to enlighten them.”

Oh, this guy needs to get laid. Severely.

When does the “I Don’t Recall Iran-Contra” Room at the counter-Reagan Library open again?

You know, even the most radical of Nixon’s detractors never came up with this idea after his presidential library opened. They let the man rest in peace. However, the Right cannot forget or forgive a Democrat beating them fair’n’square in two elections and they will do anything to erase it from American history. Pathetic.

[elucidator]

Oh, this guy needs to get laid. Severely.

I don’t know exactly what this means, to get laid “severely”. Is it akin to being “brutally fondled”? Perhaps I’ve led a sheltered life, far from exotic perversions and edgy kinky. I will endeavor to keep it so.

But if this thing can blossom, if it draws public attention to the Resident’s refusal to release the Reagan Papers, which, by law, should be before our eyes, there is definitely a whomp-ass silver lining here. Bring it on, lets get all the dirt! If Bubba really wants to put a torpedo up Fearless Leader’s pristine rectum, he will offer to release all of his papers in advance of the legal deadline!

All the Reagan papers! Iran-Contra, the Grenada farce, all of the Sandanista stuff! I gibber, I swoon with delight! Perhaps we will even get a peak at the papers from Bush’s governorship of Texas, like what went into the decision to allow the polluters to write the pollution laws.

I say lets encourage this whole “public disclosure” thing! Let the sunshine in! Theres enough in the Reagan papers to keep Ari Fliescher sweating Prozac-soaked blood for a year! Yee-haw! Let 'er buck!

[carnivorousplant]

*Originally posted by JohnBckWLD *
**** It should be open for business 6 months prior to the ribbon cutting over at the official William J. Clinton Presidential Library, just down the block in Little Rock, AK.

**

Why would he put it in Alaska?

[barton]

*Originally posted by carnivorousplant *
**Why would he put it in Alaska? **

And hidden under a rock!