New Gitmo atrocity -- obesity!

Biggirl, ever since some human rights organizations started speaking out to try to ensure that the prisoners at Guantanamo were being treated humanely, december has decided those organizations must be anti-American for even suggesting that the prisoners might not be treated well.

He’s using the fact that they’re eating well to further disparage the Red Cross’ and AI’s concerns.

Thanks andros. I see I have to recalibrate the Evilleftometer[sup]TM[/sup]. The sarcasm detector must be raised and the “relevance to topic” levels must be set to negative.

Reminds me of a current Trix commercial which has the rabbit portraying what appears to be an adult surfer. If Trix are really for kids, why are they offering the cereal to what appears to be an adult? :slight_smile:

No, he sure wouldn’t. We, however, are not Osama bin Laden.

Miller, of course we’re not Bin Laden nor are we like him, but I’m saying that we need not do backflips to accomodate criminals because the Red Cross or AI (Artificial Intelligence?) wring their hands. We haven’t tortured anybody, and we feed them better than they are used to.

As for my other comments…just venting a little spleen. My whole system is still shocked by the events of last September.

I may wish to debate the merits of the no TV, no access, no daylight option. MREs three times a day for a few weeks are bad for the lower GI tract, ifyaknowwhatimeanandithinkyoudo.

andros’s post is both accurate and clever. It accurately deciphered a far-from-clear OP. It cleverly framed my position in a bad light. How can it be wrong to try to ensure humane treatment or to be concerned that prisoners are well-treated?

I assert that expressing concern when there’s no good reason for it can be a means of communicating hatred and bigotry. E.g., suppose an international organization publicly said:

Or, how about

These statements would be taken by most as expressing a likelihood that they fairly describe my behavior. I.e., they expess vicious criticism and prejudice.

Critical statements of “concern” made by ICRC and AI in the absence of any specific knowledge were also ways opf expressing bigotry.

I do credit ICRC for stopping this sort of statement after they examined Gitmo and found that conditions were fine.

You’re right, december, I spun it. Deliberately. Mostly because you often try your damnedest to spin things your way.

And to be honest, it seems to me you just did it again.

You used this as an example of what you feel the ICRC and AI have done:

The spin comes in what you left out:

Now, you can disagree with them all you want, but to call the ICRC bigots is to succumb to the very spin you called me on.

Personally, I think there is and remains a cause for concern. I don’t think the Guantanamo prisoners are being mistreated, and I don’t think they will be . . . but I do not wish to see any slipups. Vigilance is essential, even if it sometimes seems like Chicken Little is calling.

Touche!