Gitmo releasees “return” to terrorism:Pentagon: 61 ex-Guantanamo inmates return to terrorism | Reuters
In view of this, may we reconsider that locking up these monsters was the right decision? of course, if they wind up murdering US citizens, we might have to restrict their freedoms.
i feel so bad for these terrorists-being confined so long (when all they want to do is kill innocent people).
Who on earth would trust the Pentagon when they something like this? They’ve done nothing but lie, lie, lie since they first started torturing innocent people at Guantanamo.
The article says that:
I’m not sure what exactly he means by “re-engagement”. Does it mean actual acts of terrorism? Physical support for other terrorists? Moral support?
Recidivism rates for “regular” criminals are reported to be 50 - 60% It seems that the Gitmo prisoners are doing pretty good.
What about the 50 detainees there that have been cleared for release but have nowhere to go?
What about having actual trials for the prisoners there so we can tell who needs to be kept incarcerated?
There is one sign the Americans can make that would be unmistakable, that would advance dramatically the cause of freedom and peace. Mr. Obama, open this gate. Mr. Obama, tear down these walls.
This is the right decision. If these people now hate the United States and want to get revenge… well, not to put too fine a point on it, but…
THAT’S WHY YOU DON’T PUT PEOPLE IN FUCKING PRISON CAMPS!
That whole article sounds like political, posturing bullshit by the Pentagon. How are they defining “terrorism?” What does “returning to the fight” mean?
This is nothing but an attempt to poison the well for Obama’s plans to close that shit hole next week and make it seem like he’s turning desperate “monsters” loose on the world. There are no facts in that story, just ambiguous, highly spun insinuations by the butt hurt losers of an election.
Not only should Obama cut those prisoners loose next week, he should give them money, citizenships, homes and jobs – all in Crawford, Texas.
What a remarkably stupid and unnuanced stance to take.
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Many of these people were not “captured on the battlefield” like your ignorant right-wing echo chamber likes to say. They were fingered by civilian informants for money. Would any of your neighbors have you thrown into GITMO for 25k?
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Keeping people in secret jails without trials indefinitely is unamerican.
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Torturing people in secret jails is unamerican.
If you support America acting like Soviet Russia or China and being a totalitarian lawless state with fiat imprisonment, you’re a grade A shitheel.
Bush is moving to a gated community in Dallas. Remember, the “ranch” was all Reaganesque backdrop, not in any way real.
Speaking of secret jails, aren’t/weren’t there others besides Gitmo ? I think I remember reading something about locations in Europe as well - but that’s a really vague recollection I can’t for the life of me pinpoint back. Ring any bells, or am I going loopier than usual ?
[waves hand] How long do I have to raise the $25k?
Yes, he should reconsider it, and then come to the exact same conclusion that it should be closed.
I’ll go in halfsies with you. 
Ok, so we will assume that you are correct (everything the Pentagon releases is a lie).
And all of the detainees are innocent, peaceloving folk.
Then why do their home countries refuse to take them back? (Or in the case of Saudi Arabia, RETURNESS ARE SUBJECT TO IMMEDIATE IMPRISONMENT AND POSSIBLE CAPITAL PUNISHMENT).
Again, I’m sure you know more than anybody, but please provide a cite for your assertions.
Any mention of shutting those down in Obama’s plans ? 'Cause from the looks of it, I’d say they’re even worse than Gitmo is, which is quite a feat in and of itself :mad:
With pleasure.
One of many possible examples. Anybody who’s followed the news knows that the Pentagon and the Bush Administration have pulled a game of gradual retreats on torture. They said first that nobody was torued, then that “a few bad eggs” did a few mild atrocities, then that those bad eggs did a few severe atrocities, then that the White House had approved “enhnaced interrogation techniques” but only in a few cases, and so forth. But they have never acknowledged the facts that scores of detainees have been tortured to death and that this was done with the approval of George W. Bush. Here’s a cite for that.
I’d also urge you to reconsider your belief that the justice system of Saudi Arabia provides a good measure for judging who’s guilty and who isn’t. From CNN last year:
In the case of the 17 Chinese Muslims That were ordered released by a Federal Judge in October, I believe that they would be tortured by China if they went back there.
They are no longer considered to be enemy combatants, but the Bush admin did not want to release them anyway.
What did these 17 do wrong?
So… The government asserts they are terrorists, but produces no evidence. The government keeps them in Gitmo for 7 years with no trial and never producing anything resembling evidence. The government admits that they are no longer considered to be enemy combatants, but does not want to release them anyway.
Are you proud of this? Do you want this state of affairs to continue?
If even one of them is innocent, then that’s too many. Your OP seems to be based on the assumption that they’re all definitely guilty.
If only we had a system in place to determine guilt and innocence . . . .
This seems like good time to quote this:
From here (only a portion quoted)
This is the part I really have a problem with, and it is really not in dispute:
it’s impossible to know how many of the 770 men who have been held there were terrorists.
I accidentally my neighbor for $25K.