New insight on child molesting and 'believe the child' (it's OK, nothing bad happens)

Actually, that’s the whole point of this story–nothing happened.

This morning in my First Grade Sunday School class, the story was about Jesus having compassion on the two blind beggars. As a lead-in to the story, the teacher’s book suggested discussing, first, whether the children had ever experienced a stranger coming up to them and asking them for money (as in panhandling), and then, whether if such a thing happened, they would feel more inclined to give the stranger some money if he was nicely dressed, or if he was in rags. Then we were to discuss the fact that “a long time ago in Bible Times, there were people whose job it actually was to sit by the side of the road and ask strangers for money–they were called beggars”, and we were to talk about whether the kids would feel inclined to give money to strangers who were dressed in rags.

So I asked my group if they’d ever “been with Mommy shopping, or maybe at the library or something, and a stranger came up to you and asked you for money, like for gas or something”. One kid immediately piped up, “Yes!” and I asked, “Well, tell us about it, what happened?” and he said, “My brother! He was asking my mom for money this one time, and…and…”

I said, “Well, um, that’s not really…”

The little girl next to me, named Olivia, who is part of a family of three adorable little girls, and who The Cat Who Walks Alone babysits on a regular basis, volunteered the information that one time, a man had come up to her and Mommy and asked Mommy for money. I said, “Well, tell us about it, what happened?” She said, “Well, one time me and Mommy were at the State Fair, and this man came up to Mommy, and he asked her for some money.”

I asked, “Did she give him some?”
“Yes.”
I thought, “Well, that doesn’t surprise me, Christy is just the kind of very nice person who probably does give money to strangers.” I asked her, “How did he look? Was he dressed nice, or was he kind of dirty?”
She wasn’t really sure how he looked, but she went on, “He told Mommy she had to give him some money or else he would take me.”
Startled, I said, “What?”
She nodded. “Yes, he said if Mommy didn’t give him some money, he would take me away.”
I asked curiously, “So, did Mommy give him some money?” trying to visualize Christy at the Illinois State Fair, surrounded by hundreds of people, being subjected to blackmail like this. Frankly, I had trouble picturing it. Christy’s a nice Church Lady, but that doesn’t mean she’s a wimp, especially where “The Girls” are concerned.
Olivia stated, “Yes, and then he took me away, and he took me to his house, far away, but my Mommy knew who he was, and she knew where he lived, and Mommy and Daddy and Griselda had to come get me.”

The Better Half and I listened to this in dumbfounded silence, because Griselda is, of course, none other than The Cat Who Walks Alone, and well we remembered the day she went to the Illinois State Fair with Christy and her three little girls. That was the day we got back from our three-week Niagara Falls trip a day early, anticipating a joyous reunion with The Cat, who had stayed behind in Decatur because she was working at McDonalds, sleeping on Chuck and Christy’s couch. However, when we got home and called their house to tell her the happy news that she could come home now, Chuck told us that “the ladies” had all gone to the State Fair. When our daughter finally returned home at 9 p.m., I guess in all the excitement she somehow forgot to mention that Olivia had been kidnapped and that she and Chuck and Christy had had to go to a strange man’s house to retrieve her.

I said to Olivia, very gently, “When we’re in Sunday School, we talk about things that are true, not things that are made up,” and she gave me a blank look. And I went on with the lesson.

When Sunday School got out, Olivia and I went upstairs to find Mommy, and I asked her, “The day you and Griselda and the girls all went to the State Fair–was Olivia kidnapped and taken to a strange man’s house?”

Surprised, half-laughing, she said, “Um, no…What?..” I gave her a short outline of the tall tale we’d just heard, and suggested they have a little discussion about the difference between truth and fiction, and she agreed that that might not be a bad idea, giving Olivia a rather severe look.

And then she remembered, “But, you know, we did talk about it–we talked about going with strangers, that day at the fair…”

So that’s basically the story, but I mean, wow! It’s always been axiomatic that when a child comes up with a story like this, you “believe the child”–that’s what we’re told. “Children can’t make up things like that”, we’re told. Well, Olivia did make up something like that, and the thing that I found so unnerving was, it could just as easily have involved the Better Half and something much uglier than “he took me to his house”.

I’ve been teaching this class for 9 years now, and for the last 4 years I’ve had the Better Half as my assistant. Although the church’s official policy is “always two adults in the room at the same time,” still that isn’t always adhered to. When the Better Half can’t be there, I’m supposed to call someone to be in there with me, but you know, it’s just a lot of hassle. And, let’s face it, it doesn’t look as bad for a female teacher to be alone in the room with the kids, as it does for a male teacher. And when I get sick, I send the Better Half off to church with instructions to “find someone to be in there with you–ask one of the Moms”, but he never does.

And to make it worse, the Better Half is one of those cuddly, huggy types who really likes kids. Every year it seems like there’s one needy little girl who just likes to hug Mr. R., and he obliges and gives her lots of hugs because that’s the kind of guy he is. (I did draw the line for him at the beginning about “little girls sitting on his lap”, even if I’m there, because it doesn’t sound right for Morgan or Shelby to report to Mommy and Daddy, “I got to sit on Mr. R’s lap today in Sunday School”.) And he is also fairly physical with the boys, shadow boxing and picking them up and twirling them around his head.

I have a good friend who is currently on the DCFS “watch list” because her 9-year-old niece charged her husband with “inappropriate touching”, saying that Uncle George was putting suntan lotion on her thighs (which he denies). DCFS automatically “believed the child” and started an investigation, and Bonnie and George came very close to having their own daughter taken away from them.

So now I wonder. If Olivia, who I always considered the picture of 6-year-old innocence and truthfulness, could make up a whopper like that, why not Bonnie’s niece? And if Olivia could make up a story about being taken to a strange man’s house, she could also make up a story about Mr. R. doing something that the adults listening to her would find very disturbing, especially if she was prompted–asked leading questions–by a teacher or social worker committed to finding a child molester.

I understand, in retrospect, that Olivia was just trying to please the teacher, by telling her what she thought Teacher wanted to hear, but it got out of hand, all the half-remembered injunctions about “strangers” suddenly combining in her little head to make that story.

But what if she had told that story to somebody who didn’t know her and her family, somebody who wasn’t in a position to go straight upstairs and either confirm or disprove the story–somebody official like a schoolteacher, who would have felt obligated to report it to DCFS, who would have “believed the child” and started an investigation of Chuck and Christy? “Your daughter was abducted by a family acquaintance and you didn’t report it to the police?”

I’m not saying that all children who report they’ve been molested should be suspected of having made it all up, but it sure gave me something to think about this morning.

And I will definitely make arrangements from now on, when I get sick, to have someone in there with the Better Half.

Sometimes good intentions can backfire with children because they don’t react as we think they might.

Only a slight hijack but a friend decided his little girl, four or five at the time, needed some safety training regarding strangers. We were both working at Biosphere 2 at the time which has some nice grassy park-like areas near a pond. He took her there on a saturday when there were a lot of tourist around and started teaching her what to do if a stranger did something bad.

Imagine if you will: Lots of people milling about within earshot. My friend who looks a bit like Rasputin in with a crew cut, dressed in “computer keek shabby.” A little girl screaming “NO! NO! You’re not my daddy! Let me go!”

The only thing that kept him from being taken away in handcuffs was that his wife drove out with his daughter’s birth certificate and their marriage license.

I was laying (lying?) on the couch,on my back. My 5 yr old was sitting on my upper legs, watching tv. This isnt uncommon, he cant be in the same room as me without contact…

Anyhoo… he was checking out his belly button, no biggy… then he looks for mine. He lifts the bottom of my shirt a wee bit…no belly button. Horrified, he demands to know where mine went. SO I pull down the top of my very high waisted pants, just enough so he can see I have one. (I still havent done anything wrong, I would have done the same in a room full of people) HE FREAKED! He is squealing (in disgust) “Ewwwww! that’s your bird!

‘Bird’ is our family name for genetalia of any sex.

My whole life seemed to flash before my eyes.

Of course I sorted it all out for him, but it scared the hell outta me.

One problem that exasperates these situations is hte perception that doubting a child is the same as calling a child a liar. Children, even older children, are even less reliable witnesses than adults, and their percptions are often wacky.

For example, I am doing my student teaching right now. I recently had a parent tell my cooperating teacher that her son said that I thought he was stupid, rolled my eyes at him, and wouldn’t help him.

The kid she named is one of my favorite students–I love this kid to death. I occasionally get frustrated at him because he dosen’t do his homework, and generally fails to live up to what I see as strong potential. And since he is quiet, and well-behaved, he often gets lost in the roar of the extroverts (this is a very extrovert-heavy class). But I have never, ever, for even a second, thought he was stupid.

Anyway, I talked to the kid in question, and I think we have this all cleared up. No one was lying or trying to make trouble, we just had a communication melt-down, which we resolved. However, I couldn’t help but think that if this kid’s mom had freaked out and called the principal, who knows nothing about me and who would be looking mainly to placate an angry parent, I could have ended up (worse case senario) yanked out of stundent teaching, after commiting six weeks work and $1000, or (best case senario) with a big qualification attached to the recomendation I hope to get from this school when I leave.

Unconditional love does not mean that when a child (or an adult) tells a story, you insist that they are telling the 100% objective truth and refuse to consider that there could be alternate ways of looking at it.

As far as unreliable stories ofchild-molestation go, I have no fucking idea, not a clue, what to do about the problem. taking somebody’s kids away because some child misunderstood something is completely unacceptable. leaving children with someone you suspect is abusing them is completely unacceptable. I cannot resolve this.

Sometime in the late 70s there was a pissed off and jealous Grandmother who wanted to see her two rather dull grandkids more, but the Mom was warring with her and put them in day care. The day care was a fine, long established one, run by a fat, nice older woman who had patiently picked her staff and who had done a good job with kids for years. This Grandmother gets to see the kids and cooks up a scheme with them, to say that they were molested in day care, so the horrified mother would pull them out and Granmaw would be there to graciously watch over the kids when mom had to go to work.

Well, it got out of hand. In the end, the nation was horrified to find a day care center that molested the kids, used them in Satan-like ceremonies, slaughtered the cute little bunnies and animals they had for some black sacrifice in the dark basement, danced around nude (I try not to picture the 350 pound day care lady doing this), had sex with the children and threatened to kill or do horrible things to them if they told. Everyone in the day care went to jail and thusly started the Wildfire of CHILD MOLESTATION that swept through the States, pushed through ill considered adult and child laws and sprouted a whole crop of sick detectives and psychiatrists who seemed to find molestation signs in every kid they talked to.

Of course, it was all false. The two rather dull grand children lied as coerced by Granmaw. It all came out years later as they grew up and no one was ever prosecuted. None of the molested kids had ever been molested and the Great Honest Kid Theory everyone went by crashed into the dumper as better shrinks discovered that kids WILL LIE for apparently no reason at all.

They discovered this by testing, deliberately, young children they knew had not been molested and were astounded to find that almost all, when consistently questioned they way questions had been posed, happily hung Mommy and Daddy out to dry as the most despicable child rapists imaginable. The detail they went into was astounding.

Naturally, the leading detectives and psychiatrists, and psychologists who had been making big headlines by discovering and cracking child abuse case after child abuse case, disagreed. Especially when lawyers for the Original Group, started sniffing around and filing petitions to get them released as not guilty after all. Mumbles of major lawsuits reaching up close to the National Budget made the resistance to the new facts even more determined.

Then, it was discovered how psychiatrists and psychologists, revealing suppressed memories, could actually deliberately or accidentally create them for their patients, making them ‘recall’ ‘blocked and supressed’ memories of dirty daddy diddling down there with them as little kids. Mom did not escape either. Nor did brothers and sisters, uncles and neighbors. Almost all of it fictitious.

Now we’re talking a major amount of families ruined here by misguided people and people tossed in jail for diddling when they did not.

The courts reluctantly released most of the Original Group, with this new information and the confessions, while the Original Detectives glowered and shouted at the reporters that a Hideous Breach Of Justice was taking place by letting these Evil People free. Politics entered here also, with the mayors and governors and police chiefs and shrinks watching their careers and personal lives and accumulated funds dwindle to nothing in light of the potential lawsuits which could now be filed by the Original Group. So, most were released so long as they would not sue anyone, and by then, after several years being tortured in jail by Molester Hating prisoners, they were eager to do anything to get out. Some were released but the District Attorney warned them that they were not cleared of charges and he would prosecute them again ‘if conditions warranted it’ and send them back to jail.

In short, make no waves and you stay free. Make waves with lawsuits and we’ll can you up for a few years until you can prove your innocence.

I need not point out that everyone in that nice little day care left town, their lives ruined and no one even said they were sorry or brought out the whole story about the Bitter Granmaw.

Since then, kids have been getting away with near murder by screaming molestation whenever they want to get back at an adult and in some states you may not even slap your own kid for defying you because the cops will put you in jail. The laxity in our schools and the resulting chaos is a direct relation to the fear of being accused of molestation by kids and the single minded and openly hostile attitude towards such accused people, who, by the way, are Obviously Guilty Until Proven Innocent.

Kids lie. Even if they don’t mean to, kids will often lie. I recall doing it as a kid and today don’t know why I just did not ‘fess up.’ (No, I never accused any one of abuse.)

Now we have a legal mess on our hands where any adult anywhere can wind up publicly arrested and shoved in jail if 1 pissed off kid says that adult groped him or her. Several thousand dollars later, many humiliating inquisitions later, and after everyone in town, courtesy of the press, just Knows He Diddled an Innocent Kid have decided he is guilty no matter what the courts say, he gets free and is cleared. His life is forever ruined.

Nothing happens to the accusing kid, except maybe a ‘good talking to.’ The parents cannot even be sued, especially if they have little money.

One thing that might help would be if the officials who investigate allegations of child abuse, neglect, endangerment, etc. were trained to make a concerted effort to approch each case with no preconcieved assumptions. Don’t assume the parents are probably guilty; don’t assume they are probably not guilty; don’t assume anything. Investigate.

Also, IMO, there should be no mission other then the best interests of the child. There should be no “default position” such as “trying to keep the family together” or “trying to get the family back together”. I, for one, am sick of reading, even occasionally, about a dead child who was returned to his/her family, or left with them, dispite a record of proven abuse because keeping families together was the official mission of some agency.

Oh yeah, to my knowledge, the last member of the day care group was released after spending 10 years in jail because no one aside from her own lawyers wanted to admit that she was innocent. The prime detective fought every release as bitterly as possible and even today will firmly state that all were and are guilty of everything they were charges with.

Funny, the basement was never found to be as described by kids, no slaughtered animals or stray blood was found, hymens were intact, no robes or ritualistic items were discovered and there was never any DNA evidence to be looked at later, when DNA came into being. Nothing was found anywhere on the grounds, aside from the few graves of some of the pets which had passed on of natural causes.

No physical proof. Just a lot of kids saying that they had been inappropriately touched.

I guess I’m outta the loop, because I thought it was now perfectly understood, following McMartin and similar cases, that it is * not at all * the best course of action to believe the child.

Particularly when the child has been through heavy-duty, highly suggestive “therapy”.

As a society, we are in a tough place. We’ve gone from virtually never believing the child to always believing the child. Neither is a good idea. I think each case needs to be addressed individually, and absolutely, any “evidence” that comes with anything that even smells like suggestive coaching should be rejected. The standards should be similar for trial…no leading the witness.

stoid

Not to mention taking things out of context.

Picture, if you will, walking through a grocery store. You pass a young guy in his early thirties holding the hand of a scrawny three year old girl with big dark eyes and a huge purple bruise on her cheek. You say to the girl, “Oh honey! What happened to your face!?”

And the little girl announces cheerfully, “Oh, my Daddy hit me!”

You give the guy an extremely nasty look, and stomp off.

Well, here’s the part you DIDN’T get:

I was three years old, and we went to a baby shower for my aunt given by her inlaws. I was getting out of the car, and forgot that I left something in there. My dad didn’t see me try to reach back in the seat, and started to slam the door, which caught me full on in the face. I don’t remember being hit, just being taken, crying, into the kitchen and given an ice pack. My dad was horrified.

Well, a day or so later, he took me shopping with him, like he always did, and the above incident occurred. (I don’t remember this, but he told me about it, and said he had never been so embarassed in his life.)

So, what I said was TRUE, but not like the woman thought.
Wasn’t I a stinker?

:smiley:

Oh, and I forgot-I went back to preschool, according to my mother, and explained my bruise the exact same way!

:eek:

Actually, even nowadays, when a molestation charge is proven false, there’s still a stigma, which is why I think that any person who would make a false accusation-and there surely are people that do so-are scum of the earth.

the problem is that kids and adults both lie. and kids will lie for pretty much no reason. they’re not trying to be bad; experimenting with fantasies and falsehoods is part of growing up.

my three-year-old step-daughter will lie at the drop of a hat. she blames everything on her little brother. even when there’s nothing to blame on him! they could be colouring peacefully on the bedroom floor, and the minute i walk in and ask what’s up, she tells me, “uh, aoghdan did it?”

she’ll also blame the cat. we have a very… rambunctious cat who plays a bit too rough with the kids. a few days ago, she’s playing in the living room (cat in the bedroom), and she screams and yells that the cat scratched her! i have no idea where that one came from.

still, if she told me that someone was touching her, how could i not believe her? how could i possibly know if it was true? and if it was, and i didn’t do everything i could to help her, what then?

it’s so scary, i don’t want to implicate and ruin the life of someone innocent, but i don’t want anyone to hurt my kids.

I was riveted by Ogalthorp’s bitter and thorough exposition of that famous affair. Welcome to the Boards.

What I feel the 'thorp didn’t mention specifically is the strong emotional and psychosocial stuff that the question of child abuse raises.

For example, things are made more twisted and heated because of people’s own feelings about sex. Those who think sex is bad and dirty are often the most virulent and difficult about having a clear understanding of children and their actual capacities (as opposed to their idealised capacities).

As well as this, the strong spring of parental love can tend to seize any accusation of abuse as an outlet for feelings of fear about one’s own child’s vulnerability, or one’s own guilt about possible defaults of duty.

And Doctor Freud would also suggest that the tenderest and best of adults can feel a faint sexual interest in children. Those who cannot admit this, he would suggest, feel compelled to display loud disgust and anger. Of course, nobody takes any notice of that boring old reprobate now do they? And aren’t those twelve-year old models passing for adults on the covers of those magazines, uncannily attractive?

It is vital to a decent society that children be treated well and protected. There are areas however, where finding the facts about what to protect them from is not easy.

Redboss

Especially as a gay person, I have a gnawing fear that someone will come up with something like this about me. That’s why I have no interest in having children or in being in contact with any children not related to me, ever.

Ogalthorp, you seem to be suggesting that it is common for children to intentionally lie about being molested. I don’t think there’s any reason to believe that this is the case. Young children who are asked leading questions will make false accusations of abuse, but this is rarely because they have any desire to mislead people or to get grownups into trouble.

A child’s thought processes are not as orderly and easy to understand as those of an adult (and even an adult’s are not that orderly or understandable!). Children can be easily confused by leading questions, and they are more prone to both fantasy and to creating false memories than adults are. While the things a child says in such a situation may be completely false, the child may genuinely believe that they are true. This is not “lying” as the word is commonly used. Children in this situation are not little devils, they are victims – not of child molestors, but of people who have (unwittingly, one hopes) brainwashed them.

Lamia see abuse angel’s post.
Kids lie, but I’m not saying that they lie like rugs and kids are heavily influenced by what they hear on kid show TV and from the parents and news. They, up to a certain age, feel that if an adult sez it, then it Is Absolutely True.

I know an 8 year old girl, the daughter of a friend, who coolly informed me, when I was joking with her about her grade school teacher, that he cannot lay a hand on her because That Is Not Allowed FOR ANY REASON. She had been shocked when the teacher took a very disruptive boy, who would not sit down and stop clowning, by the arm and made him sit. She had been informed that no adult has any right to touch her aside from family.

She has also lied to me without blinking about things her parents said or what they did on vacation for no discernible reason. We were just chatting while on a walk. I do not consider her a liar, though.

She was playing with a girl around a year or two older than her when the little girl initiated the usual sexual play one expects from kids. Look what I got. Lemme see what you got. Can I touch? Will you touch. You know the stuff, which is all part of growing up. At least it was not with an older boy, which would have been absolutely normal also in that age group.

My friend’s daughter has been so initiated that Anything SEXUAL is Bad that she panicked! She sulked for two days before telling her folks about what happened and the next thing I know, there are talks about cops, therapists, social services, coddling, explaining, and the very nice folks of the other girl are suddenly OGRES with a Sex Maniac in the family who Obviously Needs Therapy! Much discussion and speculation about confrontations with the folks and Dad possibly punching out the other Dad or at least getting the Cops to visit him and have Social Services investigate their dirty little group over there.

I wanted to smack the crap out of my friend and his wife for being stupid and you know their little girl could not avoid being privy to most of this stuff or noticing the change her Confession had made in the family and friends grouping. Especially in the sudden loss of her friend, whom she was no longer allowed to play with.

Their ‘education’ of the girl led to this, along with the accepted sex education in the school, Nickelodeon’s sex education of the kids, new reports of similar incidents all blown out of proportion (like the 6 year old boy suspended for kissing a 6 year old girl on the cheek), and the general mindset about sex being FILTHY-DIRTY-NASTY even to the extend of perfectly normal and inevitable sex play among kids.

I recall touchy-feely with a little girl when I was a little boy and it did not warp me into an insidious, raving sex maniac nor turn her into a mentally abused and lascivious nymphomaniac. We looked, compared, asked questions, touched, did a lot of giggling and went back to playing. Big deal.

However, today, such things are drilled into the kids as a Sin! Forbidden! So, what is going to happen later on in life to them when they want to perform beautiful, caring, loving, exciting sex regularly? I was appalled at how my friend’s daughter reacted back then. They actually took her to a child specialist shrink for a few months!

With this type of mentality, any contact between an adult and a child that is physical becomes suspect. Grabbing the arm of an obnoxious kid in school can get a teacher arrested! Thanks to all of the kid lies in the not so distant past at the hands of improperly trained people, everyone is nuts today over any physical contact.

A Daddy carrying his little girl can be suspect if he has a hand on her bottom. Daddies cannot even take baths with little kids anymore for fear they might say the wrong thing to the teacher in school, who will report them to the cops, who will start an annoying, embarrassing and costly investigation on them. In my family, my father loved to bath with us, but it stopped once we got too curious about what he had between his legs and my father was not a molester or weirdo. He was normal for the day and age.

Things have gotten weird and out of hand. Kids pick up a whole lot from adults and the adults need to rethink a few things concerning normal and abnormal sex or even just touching a kid’s arm. We have an unusually high percentage of molesters these days, but as of this writing, I know of no study being done as to why. Yet I know that there are scores of new laws passed concerning kids and kids’ rights that even affect the sanctity of the home.

I saw a COPS segment, where a rebellious 14 year old girl refused to obey her father’s orders not allowing her to tomcat around at night in the city. So, when she mouthed him back, he slapped her face. She called the cops. They took him to jail. They informed him that he could in no way slap his kids, for any reason.

That sucked!

I may be horribly off-base with this, but I think it’s more a lot more reported molesters than ever before. It probably is true that our humanity-sucking, alienation-driven society creates a few more deviants than before, or at least allows them to act more - but I think people are better educated about it and report it more also.

There’s still a stigma to it, and I’m sure many victims don’t come forward because of shame or misplaced self-blame, but a lot more people have the courage to turn in these creeps. A good example would be the hockey player who lived with it for years and then turned in his Junior league coach, which brought out a lot more corroborating stories, and hopefully stopped that one guy, at least.

And the inherent danger of being prepared, and wary of sexual abuse, is over-reaction. I’m sure we’ve all heard of the witch-hunts and false accusations that happen around the country (USA) every now and then.

The biggest thing we need is a modicum of common sense, yet that’s hard to come by in a bureaucracy like social services (child welfare, whatever acronym it goes by where you are). Zero tolerance and mandatory sex-offender status are also the wrong way to go about things, unless you want the 6 year old giving a peck on the cheek suspended for the year, or the couple on either side of the 16 year old line to become ‘criminals’.

halfway down this thread one of the “south park” episodes with a political comment leapt to mind. you know, the one where all the kids in south park called social services, said “my parents molestered me, bad touch.” and had all the adults removed.

without parental guidance or any restraining factor at all, they all degenerated into human sacrifice troy-akmanists (cause they worshipped a statue of troy akman) within three days.

no point i just thought that was a tad relavant.

re-reading the thread, I somehow missed all the posts that were between 3 pm and the Ogalthorp post I quoted, so mentioning the witch-hunts and such was redundant.

I’ll never trust the ‘go to first unread post’ button again!

The figures I’ve seen on “unfounded” abuse reports vs. “founded” abuse reports indicates a ratio of about 3 to 1, that is, 3 cases are cleared for every one that isn’t. This figure dates to 1994, and I haven’t seen a newer set of numbers.

It’s really easy to sit back and think “I haven’t done anything wrong; it’ll all come out and I’ll be cleared and life will go on.” Unfortunately, it doesn’t work that way. Once there is a file initiated, it will never really go away. Friends, relatives, just about everyone you come in contact with will wonder if it’s really true. Your kids’ friends’ parents will not trust you with their kids. Your kids’ teachers will pay special attention for signs of abuse, and act accordingly, thus meaning another encounter with the system.

The number I referred to earlier indicates 4 families whose lives will never be the same. Sadly, I’ve learned that the hard way.

Robin

My four year old daughter fibs. Some of the stuff I know where it came from (ie if she watches The Little Mermaid, she’ll talk about how the sea witch stole her voice–insisting that it happened to her). Some of it I can’t comprehend.

For example, we were standing in a line. In walks family friends, and they join the line. My daughter, after exchanging hellos and how are yous, tells them, “Joe spanked my bum yesterday!” She said it in a “I’m telling!” voice, not just conversational.

Joe is a person that my daughter hadn’t seen in a very long time, and Joe has never been in a position to spank her bum. It was totally false.

On the other hand, I think in most cases, professionals know how to talk to children who allege abuse. There are certain signs, and there are certain ways of talking to the child without leading them.

I would take seriously any claim a child makes about abuse because you don’t know, and you wouldn’t want to inadvertanly allow abuse to continue.