Actually, Anaamika, why don’t you start a new thread in MPSIMS. That way, in case someone has a question about the way the new tag works, it doesn’t get lost in the suggestions for your problem. (Or, vice-versa.)
What I meant is, I know why it’s broken.
This bulletin board software is perfectly able to provide basic posting and reading functionality to user agents without javascript capabilities. You don’t even need cookies to log in.
Now you’re asking your users to tweak their browsers in order to fix a problem that nobody should have to bother with in the first place. Sorry, but please understand that I’m not your beta-tester.
Nor should you assume that anybody else is. Okay, for the workaround with the quote button you have to be logged in. - What about non-members? All the other people at work, public terminals, libraries, schools? Long-time lurkers won’t sign up to provide feedback about their browser capabilities just to get the content of these pages displayed properly. - And we’re not talking about fancy user-side scripts like automatic dropdown menus or keyboard shortcuts here, we’re talking about the most basic feature of a message board: People are exchanging content with the expectation that other readers will be able to see it. Or not…because they’re spoilers. Gah. You know what I mean. 
This function should not depend from your type of browser.
The usual highlight spoiler tags were bad enough. This is defective by design. Basic accessibility is sacrificed for a non-feature, with no obvious means of fallback provided. (The spoiler label could be a link to a separate page where the content is served in plain text, for example. But you’d need to write extra code for that.) Instead, some people only get a button that doesn’t work. Even the page with the printer-friendly version doesn’t expand the text. It prints out the javascript button. :smack: It’s terribly bad web design.
Now it’s starting to sound like a thread in the developer forums of Pidgin (or other software project) where two competing philosophies meet head-to-head, and the project ends up forked. 
That bit o’ humor aside, Wiltshire, I understand where you’re coming from, but I really don’t think the expectation for users to employ a scripting language built into browsers since the mid-'90s is all that onerous. For (1), all major browsers have it active from the word install, and (2) I suspect the number of people who won’t be able to use it is pretty small; and (3) this board makes extensive use of javascript as it is, so it’s a pretty sure bet that, due to the lack of complaints about that bit of functionality, the majority of users already have javascript turned on for all sites, or just this site alone. The weaknesses of the original spoiler tag and the benefits of the new one were enough, we felt, that the weaknesses of the new were sufficiently outweighed.
Now, it could turn out that enough people have problems with it that we’ll rethink our position and switch back to the old code. But, I don’t want to hold back on introducing changes to the board simply because of a hypothetical number of users who won’t supply feedback to let us know that something doesn’t work. If that were the case, we’d still be using HTML 2.0 for 100% compliance in all browsers regardless of platform.
Right now, I prefer to wait and see. So far, based on the replies to this thread, very few people have technical issues with the tag. If that changes, like I mentioned, we’ll be sure to reconsider its use.
Rosebud
IT’S A TRAP!!!
Lol. Just kidding. Wanna know the truth about Rosebud?
It’s never gonna give you up.
Fair enough. I for one am going to rest knowing that, when every other site out there tries to shove Silverlight up your @&&, you WILL change your mind about the virtues of retaining an option for website access in baseline HTML.
Sweet, thanks! It is much appreciated.
I forgot about the static HTML pages located in the archives, but if anyone wants to look at a text-only version of the Dope (where tags do not work at all, and text between the tags is revealed), be sure to click on Archive in the lower, right-hand corner of your screen. You’ll get a list of threads for a forum, and they’ll look like this:
To Serve Man
is a Soylent Green cookbook!
Yeah, I really like the new tag. Was a pain to have to highlight the old ones, now one click and I’m spoiled.
sNuGgLyPUppY
Hey SkipMagic
For me (and I suspect I’m in a very, VERY small minority). i preferred the old spoiler tag. I rarely use my mouse when surfing and used to just ctrl-A to highlight the whole page, including spoiler tags.
Is it possible (more importantly, is it EASY) to make this a user-selected preference in the User Control Panel area (Use Shiny New Spoiler Tags- Y/N)?
If not, no biggie–I’m sure the vast majority of people love this and it looks great.
Either way, thanks for checkin’
Fenris
As of yet, vBulletin isn’t as versatile as what you’re suggesting, Fenris, so we can only have a tag work one way. That may change in the future, but for now the spoiler tag can use and display only the one kind of code.
Thanks for checking!
Awesome! I was going to request this, but I never thought you guys would actually do it. Thanks for proving me wrong!
Valete,
Vox Imperatoris
blah blah blah