The first rule of Curliclub, you do not talk about Curliclub.
The second rule of Curliclub, you do not talk about Curliclub.
Seriously, y’all, stop encouraging her.
She doesn’t need encouraging…she will do this with or without people making comments about it. Every time. : p
This is now the fifth or sixth topic she’s done this in…you know the TOP TWO pit threads with the most replies? She’s the reason. She has well over 100 more posts than anyone else in those threads, and the rest of the posts made by others are mostly people arguing with her for pages and pages.
I have no doubt, even if left by her lonesome, curlcoat would just keep replying to herself, until this page is at page three or four (only page two for me, but then again, my posts per page is set to 200).
And yet, you continue to freak out simply because I question your use of Medicaid. If that isn’t guilt and an attempt at justification, then what is it?
Yes, you did, because you know that I didn’t tell you that you should have aborted your kids, it wasn’t even kids. You tried to pretend that the second time you got pregnant that there was nothing you could do but go ahead and have and keep this kid you couldn’t afford, and I pointed out that there were several options, only one of which was abortion. Simply because you fixate on that doesn’t mean I told you that you should have aborted that kid, or both kids.
Then why did you offer one? That was your original entry into this thread - you were going to “clear up misconceptions” because you didn’t want “the game stacked against you”. Everything from you has been a justification for needing public assistance for healthcare for your children, both now and the what-ifs in the future. Why are you now surprised and upset that I don’t have much sympathy for people who go ahead and have children they can’t afford?
I don’t view it that way - I paid into Social Security because the government intends it to be a retirement fund, that everyone will take at some point. I pay taxes to fund Medicaid, welfare, food stamps, etc in theory as a safety net, in reality as a lifestyle choice for far too many.
Well that certainly was a backhanded warning.
No, I don’t much care about people questioning my use of Medicaid, it’s you insulting my children that pisses me off.
Oh, like that makes it better. “I only told you ONE of them shouldn’t have been born.” :rolleyes: BTW, make up your mind. In one breath, you are so innocent and never even hinted, oh dear, no, that I should have aborted my youngest. Then in the next, it’s all “oh, no. I only told you that you should have aborted your youngest.” Which is it? If you are going to lie, at least keep your lie consistent.
No, I never tried to pretend that my choice was the only choice that could have been made. But it’s the choice that I made. And now that my youngest is here and breathing, the point of you insinuating he never should have been born is…what, exactly? To hurt me as a little way of getting back at me for taking your retirement from you!!! scream, wail, gnash of teeth. You said it to hurt me, and the satisfaction you got from doing so is palpable. Again, I didn’t ‘get sensitive’ I got upset. I got upset the same way any good parent who is told their children shouldn’t exist gets upset. It’s really that hard for you to get that?
You make it sound as though I went screaming into the wilderness because you said, “Hey, maybe you should do something else.”
No, you crossed a line.
Oh, and while you are at it, please stop lying. You clearly insinuated that I am a bad person, and selfish for not aborting my youngest. You think that the only moral choice was aborting (or giving him up to an uncertain system). So own it and stop lying about it.
The only misconception I wanted to clear up was that people who want reform don’t want to be responsible for their own healthcare. I personally have no problem paying for healthcare, I just want someone to regulate the industry better. What we have now amounts to not much more than extortion.
If you make claims like this, you are expected to show numbers that demonstrate that the majority of people who receive these services are long term recipients.
torie, quickly come with me! We’ll go to MPSIMS and hide amongst the threads on Halloween and Grounhogs! She will never find us there! It’s your only hope of escape!
You know, I’ve realized that you guys are right. curlcoat, you are either a terminally stupid old bitch or you are *pretending *to be a terminally stupid old bitch, I neither know nor care which. You have the reading comprehension of a 2nd grader. You demand cites but never provide your own. You think you know everything about everything and yet you are barely a member of the real world. Here’s a hint - you don’t pay taxes, you don’t pay for anything! Your sugardaddy does that, much pity to him. Your arguing style is so completely inept that not even the members of your side want to have anything to do with you. If only I knew the date of your immenent banning I would pencil it in as a frolicksome holiday.
In short, nobody agrees with you. Nobody likes you. Nobody wants you around. You are a useless waste of skin with a tiny pointless life, and I have bigger and better things to do with my time. I’m done.
Maybe we can find an extra big HUGS!!! to hide behind!!! :eek:
Just couldn’t let this slip by,
Interesting, get rid of a large part of the financial services industry.
Nope, can’t see any down side to that. I’m quite sure all the interest charges and fees the CC companies collect just get, what, sent to landfills?
Why do you hate “The American Dream”?
Nope, no good reason to buy a Widget 2.0 if I already own a Widget 1.0.
I mean it’s not like Widget Inc. spends millions on R&D to add some new feature or market test three new cool color Widgets. Praying that my brand loyalty and word of mouth about how much better Widgets are than Fidgets will ensure that they actually, ya know, have some reason to stay in business, right?
Do you really not know that our economy’s life blood is people buying things they don’t really need and can’t actually afford, with a nearly half trillion dollars spent on advertising telling them they’re losers if they don’t own the latest and greatest like the Jones’ do?
Well, I’d hope they’d get to the doctor for a flu shot before they get that flu … and I’m guessing you wouldn’t want to pay for that either.
I mean it’s not like anyone ever died from the flu, right?
CMC fnord!
Insulting your children? You mean when I said they weren’t all important to the rest of the world?
What I said was you should have been more responsible, instead of selfishly deciding that because you wanted a baby, you were going to have it, whether you could afford it or not.
The only difference is the way you decide to take what I say, which has always been essentially that just because you get pregnant doesn’t mean you have to have or keep the baby. It is you that decides about half the time that must mean I am advocating abortion. Which is really kind of neither here nor there - why should I be responsible for another child because you have a problem with abortion?
Oh fercrissakes. What in the world does it matter to you that an internet stranger tells you that you were irresponsible to have a child you couldn’t afford? Yes, you were hyper-sensitive to take that to “you are saying my poor baby shouldn’t exist you evil monster”.
That’s kind of what I said, more along the lines of should have but still quite a bit the same.
I cannot be responsible for your interpretations resulting from your guilt or whatever your problem is.
Then please do so. A UHC is not paying your way as you would have others picking up the slack, supposedly just the rich taxpayers. A UHC is not healthcare reform, it is simply another way for the government to take from the rich and give to the poor.
I already have.
Uh, speaking of not knowing anything, yes I do pay taxes and I have no sugardaddy. We pay property tax, we pay sales taxes, we pay gas tax and we pay income tax. The fact that my income is much less than his (and it always has been) doesn’t mean I don’t get to pay tax.
Wow. All of that simply because I don’t agree with your opinion on a country you don’t live in getting a UHC. Which one of us is the useless waste of skin with a tiny pointless life?
So, you are in favor of people going bankrupt (and, sorry, can’t resist) unable to pay for their own healthcare due to the extremely high interest rates that many credit cards charge? You are in favor of people living well beyond their means due to the ease of “just charge it”? It’s OK to gut the insurance companies but not the credit card companies?
You don’t really believe that do you? That everyone should go buy the 2.0 simply because it exists? Or because the neighbors have one?
So, it is OK with you that people go bankrupt just as long as we keep supporting big business? You honestly believe that it is good for the country to keeping buying until your credit cards melt? Gosh, I wonder how the country got along before people saw no shame in being deeply in debt.
I already am - around here the shots are free. I’ve never had one so I have no idea if that is a worthwhile use of our tax money. Of course, you are ignoring the fact that the shot only covers the flu du jour, and that most flus are not at all life threatening by themselves.
Seriously, you bumped this?
Ugh, it’s more of the same from you. I have better things to do than to go around in circles with you. If you don’t get now that there is a big difference between saying that I should do some things different and you suggesting that I should turn back time and abort my kids, then you’re stupider than I thought. It’s not like you are magically going to get smarter.
The sad thing is, I can sort of understand where you are coming from. Living where I live, it’s not culturally acceptable for a girl or woman who finds herself pregnant to say, “I don’t want to do this, so I’m not going to.” Parents and grandparents automatically start wistfully looking forward to the child, which leaves many girls and women I know culturally pressured to becoming parents without considering all their options and all aspects of their lives, like I was able to. The problem is that you are taking the position to a disgusting extreme and then trying to apply it to people you are speaking to personally, which you should know will never go well. Again, I was able to consider all aspects and no matter what you think, I stand by my position that I made the right decision. My children are probably not going to cure cancer or colonize the moon, but we will do all we can to make sure they are people of integrity. That’s an important contribution, no matter how you want to twist my use of the word ‘important’.
Have fun with your thread and your anger and your Social Security (you’re welcome, by the way.). I had orientation this morning, and I have a lot of work to do to get ready for Monday. All the best to you and yours.
I know I said I was done, but - it’s not because I disagree with you, it’s because you are a heartless, whiny, stupid bitch who is undeservedly nasty and incredibly hypocritical. Do you see the difference?
What are you talking about? I responded to a post you made yesterday. I’m so sorry that I haven’t taken the time to get back to you as quickly as you think I should.
Apparently, neither are you. Yes, you should do some things differently - have you ensured that you won’t have another accidental pregnancy? Have you figured out what you are going to do if you don’t get a job after you finish school, or if that job doesn’t offer group insurance? Or are you just counting on the government to continue to provide that, one way or another?
Pointing out things you did wrong in the past doesn’t mean I expect you to go back in time or something, it means learn from your mistakes
(It will be interesting to see how you twist that back to “you should have aborted your kids”…)
Where you live has absolutely nothing to do with that, as women are pressured to have children all over the country, if not the world. Despite my obvious dislike for children, and the younger they are the less I can tolerate them, I essentially had to force my Planned Parenthood recommended doctor to do my tubal, when I was 33. He was sure I would “change my mind” and that “it is different when it’s your own baby”. My parents essentially disowned me for 10-15 years (and for all I know, still do) for daring to not produce children. Many hundreds of other women tell similar stories, thousands of others blither into motherhood and then find out it wasn’t a good idea. You are probably a good 25 years younger than me but nothing much has changed in that time.
No, you took the extreme (which to me and many others is not “disgusting”) and ignored the rest.
I’m not twisting it at all since important assumes something of significance - are you really not aware that there are tons of mommies out there doing all they can to make sure their kids grow up to be people of integrity? And piles of them are on Medicaid, so by the time you figure you are talking about tens of thousands of kids that are all about the same, can you see that two more are not important to anyone but you and your family and friends? That you expect me to see them as important is nothing but egotism. My husband, my friends and my pets are important to me and none of them are forcing me or anyone else to help support them. Which is probably why I give freely to them.
'Tain’t my thread, there is no anger (you do know that mature adults can disagree without getting angry, right?) and you are paying into Social Security in hopes it will still be there when you retire, not to support me, don’t delude yourself. And your “all the best” certainly doesn’t cancel out all of the other things you’ve said.
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My parents essentially disowned me for 10-15 years (and for all I know, still do) for daring to not produce children.
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That’s not why they disowned you.
? Why would I bother going to school if I wasn’t on birth control? That would be really stupid. As for the rest of your questions, yes and no.
Bullshit there’s no anger. And it wasn’t meant to cancel anything out. You don’t give a flying fuck about my feelings, so I’m not sure that I give much of a flying fuck about yours. I dislike you about as much as one can dislike a person whom one has never really met. You come across as a callous and miserable person. You’re still welcome for my taxpayer money, and have fun with your last word. I’m done with you.
It’s the height of hilarity to suggest that someone who is currently working doesn’t know where the social security tax that they’re paying is going, or that they’re paying in “hope” of anything. There’s no way to opt out and the money that’s being taken out of paychecks today is supporting SS recipients today. If anyone is deluded in this thread, it would be the person receiving social security who doesn’t recognize that they are being supported by the people who are actually still working, and the only value that their contributions to SS has is to provide a formula for how much money they receive, money taken from current workers, every month.
Clarification: In post #45, torie mentions that her birth control failed and the second child was a surprise. The fact that she was using birth control indicates that she was, in fact, acting responsibly.
And where in the heck are there any free flu shots? The doc’s office wants a copay, the college health center charges less but still charges, and all the drugstores want at least $25.00.
Ah, but how many people die in the U.S. every year with healthcare? Didn’t think of that one, did ya?
I wasn’t aware that you knew my parents?
Oh please. Women drop out of school all the time because they have become pregnant.
If you don’t plan on getting the government to pay for your healthcare after you get out of school, what do you plan to do if you can’t get a job, or one with insurance?
Hon, it isn’t me who is all up in arms about things and flying off the handle at every perceived slight.
Huh, seen that before…
Her comment still doesn’t make any sense that way either.
I wonder how many times I have to say that I am aware that Social Security is bankrupt and basically a pyramid scheme before you all notice? Oh, and remember.
At conception, maybe.
Southern California.