I think this is the first example I’ve seen of a reverse woosh. That is, a case where people get indignant about a comment they think you made facetiously, when in fact you were being serious?
Just a quick look shows that New York only requires 5 of 6 jurors to agree in a civil trial. There’s also a question in whether a jury trial is even applicable for the specifics of this case. The Senate doesn’t necessarily help. The Paula Jones civil lawsuit against Bill Clinton was allowed to proceed without impeachment. It was actions under oath as part of that proceeding that later led to impeachment in the House.
Potentially, it’s related to a decision about how good the case is. Civil trials have a lower burden of proof. It’s a preponderance of the evidence (sometimes stated as more likely than not.) It’s not the higher beyond a reasonable doubt standard that would be needed to get a criminal conviction.
Nixon’s political career began in 1946. It took us TWENTY-EIGHT YEARS to get rid of him.
So they’re finally following up on that? It was before the election that New York investigators realized that the “foundation” had never even filed the paperwork to be considered a charity.
Trump’s started 31 years ago.
Apparently, Underwood issued a series of referrals to the Feds and the IRS alongside the lawsuit filing.
Am I correct that this is a civil suit, that the Trump-family criminals aren’t being charged with any misdemeanors, let alone felonies?
IANAL, obviously, but I am continually dismayed that, say, selling loosies on the sidewalk is a criminal offense, but bilking donors and taxpayer out of millions is not. I’m not asking for an explanation of criminal codes, just to confirm whether this is another example where Mr. Bumble was right: “the law is a ass — a idiot.”
So, we can assume it will be settled soon.
Could the AG refuse to settle?
If they settle, who is actually going to pay the settlement?
I wouldn’t count on Cohen.
Seems to me that it shouldn’t be a windfall for the state, the money should go to the unwitting donors.
Depends on if the NY AG accepts pounds of flesh.
I’d be surprised if there were any “unwitting donors.” The name “Trump” was front and center, no one should be surprised it was all a scam.
Wasn’t some of it collected as donations for veterans organizations?
If people are to maintain any respect for American democracy, Trump needs to end up in prison along with his cronies. He has committed an endless number of crimes and corruptions and sold our country out to the Russians and Chinese.
If all he gets is a pardon and then the next generation of democrats and republicans say ‘lets look forwards, not backwards’ then that will really damage faith in the US as a whole. It’ll also make the US more prone to authoritarianism and military coups, because the public won’t really respect the concept of democracy if it doesn’t actually work.
Trump’s broke. That’s the McGuffin, the crux of the biscuit. That’s why he’s grubbing for every penny he can lay a hand on. That’s why when people come over and sit on his couch, he checks it for change when they leave. He is hooked for $25 million for his Trump University, and, best I can tell, hasn’t paid a dime. Says he has billions, a billion is a thousand million. And can’t come up with 25? He’s scrambling to pay the vig on his debt load, just to keep the appearance of being afloat.
Trump’s broke.
I think an honest accounting will find that after subtracting his debt obligations, Trump is at best worth 8 figures.
Still a lot of money, but had he taken his dad’s inheritance and put it in index funds he would be an actual billionaire by now.
I get so tired of this. Trump’s father died in 1999, long after Trump had written The Art of the Deal, gotten famous, put up a jillion buildings, bought Mar-A-Lago, Kashoggi’s yacht, etc. Trump’s father left an estate when he died of roughly 300 million dollars, which was split between Donald Trump and his siblings.
The index fund thing is also inaccurate as it totally disregards the huge amount Trump has spent living over all those years
If this board still wants to think of itself as the smartest on the internet, crap like this really needs to stop. This information is not only readily available but I’ve posted it many times here myself. I don’t like much of what Trump does and I didn’t vote for him, but facts, as they say, is facts. There is simply no merit to the father’s inheritance and index fund claims.
My understanding was that the money in question was seed money that DJT received from his father back in the 70s.
Now, assuming Trump worked a job, then this $1m would not go into living expenses. And given that the examples that we’re talking about were saying that if Trump had simply put the money in stocks and sat on them (i.e., not actively managing nor living off dividends), then we would expect him to increased the $1m to $3.1b, according to this Dow Jones calculator:
And it should be noted, however you want to calculate it, the salient point is that there are some very good reasons to believe that Trump lives beyond his means and runs his businesses horribly. Which, true, has nothing to do with this particular little “what if” scenario, but it is a piece of evidence that he could have done better than he has.
I’m sorry, but what buildings has he put up(as opposed to slapping his name on them for PR purposes), and of the ones he actually put up how successful are they?