Why are you talking as if you’re the resident sociology professor here to educate us ‘white folk’ about the errors of our judgements?
Because you are trying to justify bigotry and racism, and if I let it slip by without saying anything I would be guilty of letting this bullshit go unchallenged.
Complacency in face of racial bigotry is intolerable.
Example:
Which is complete BS. How about we quit being bigoted oppressors?
I didn’t even see the catcallers before they yelled at me, and when I got bottles thrown at me I was too busy playing tennis to wonder if the crowd was dangerous. I did do a doubletake when I realized what neighborhood my friend asked me to play tennis in but I figured I would most likely be safe. But I have learned by those incidences, and other more firm data, that a single digit percentage of everyone are hardcore racists, and by going into that neighborhood I was exposing myself to a lot of people who would see me as a hated target, much like there are a whole bunch of white people who will call the police on black people for nothing even if 95% of us won’t, so the incidences of that happening are too high (as in, they exist.)
It was probably just that neighborhood, however: while I haven’t spent any time that I know of walking in other black neighborhoods, I’ve spent the majority of my adult life living in mixed neighborhoods and have never had an issue there, in fact, when you add together safety and feeling at home, I’m more comfortable in mixed neighborhoods than in majority neighborhoods of any race.
As a white person, I don’t feel the need to accept responsibility for the outrages of people I don’t know and do not have accountability over.
While at the same time, pertaining to this thread, one or two railings against “white men” in social media taken in isolation is not something to get worked up about. It’s assumed that they meant to type “some white men”. But that isn’t always the case. Sometimes people really do think whites and only whites can be racist. I was demonstrating a counterexample which, if disagreed to, would rob the word of any sting to the point of meaninglessness.
So, are you taking estimates of how many times I’ve done something similar? You’d think that being around so many likely targets of my virulent racism in my lifetime since the unfortunate end of segregation that I’d have at least shouted out a few choice epithets at some PoCs in my lifetime. I trust you will come back with some citations shortly.
Utterly pitiful. In so many other threads you are happy to respond point by point.
Here…you’ve got nothing and I can only assume that it is because you can’t summon the courage to challenge your thinking.
Directed at me of course, you sir, are an intellectual minnow and a coward.
To directly adresss that ad hominem, no I am not special or blessed, I just won’t ignore it when people bitch about minorities stepping out of their place, which as I stated before is just another form of the ‘uppity negro’ trope.
It is disappointing that you can self justify this bullshit, and I would rather not be responding.
You should know this, and if you didn’t view your fellow citizens as ‘others’ is is just pretty freaking obvious.
Did you ever consider that they were just a group of assholes who happened to be black before you assigned this behavior to an entire group of people?
I was once attacked by a group of drunken Canadians with hockey sticks because they didn’t like I was on a bicycle. I never once blamed white people or Canadians as a whole.
This is an example of prejudice, where you just sold an entire group of people as being evil and violent because of a difference in melanin. If you don’t see why this is a problem I suggest you do some looking inward and maybe some reading.
As I said previously I don’t know his stuff that well but one video that I did see was his address to the Oxford Union.
What he says in it seems fairly reasonable and was well received by the students. (those notable right-wing rabble-rousers) There was nothing particularly scary or hideously hateful that I could perceive.
Of course some on this thread seem to think that if you can find anything at all sensible or reasonable in what he says then it marks you out as some form of vermin.
I think people are grown up enough to contemplate a thought or an idea on its own individual merits.
I call out the hypocrisy of the NYT due to their staff member posting racist tweets, and I’m the one justifying racial bigotry and racism? Do you even read what you type? Do I need to remind you what the textbook definition of racism is, because it looks like you’ve forgotten, here, I’ll remind you, again, I’ve bolded the phrases just to make sure it’s sinking into your brain.
Yeah exactly, why do you think I’ve been rambling on for the last few pages?
How about everyone do it at once? Is it that hard to hold everyone to the same standard? And btw, not every member of an ethnic group is a bigoted oppressor, but you in turn use the same gross generalisations you accuse racists of using themselves.
Where did I assign blame to a whole group of people? Did you not read my posts where I blame a single digit percentage of all races? (Which may or may not be accurate, it’s just an estimate). There’s nothing preventing them from being assholes and racists; in fact that’s sort of how things work.
The easiest conclusion from this pattern of occurrences is that I was harrassed and/or attacked because of my race. With the gang of kids throwing bottles at me one can’t be sure that they didn’t do that a whole lot as equal opportunity mayhem, but I can be pretty flippin sure when people yell at me to get out of the neighborhood that they didn’t have the energy to just do that to random people.
I’m truly puzzled as to why you repeatedly claim that I was justifying prejudice by revealing that a certain percentage of people are racists. The mind boggles.
Again, you are ascribing meaning to my words that is so far from their actual meaning that I’m just bemused. Please find someone else to lecture with your patronizing non sequiturs.
What the fuck, man, are you trolling me? Only white dudes can have that happen to them? Do you consider me daft? Everyone can be the target of racism.
Then he started spouting how white privilege is a “Marxist lie,” and the right wing likes to demonize the left as communist scum and are afraid of having women treated as equals.
Jordan B. Peterson appeals to lonely men on the internet who feel alienated by the progress of women and minorities but his views directly align with white nationalism.
Also retweeting nazi’s doesn’t tend to help win people over
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So, if a person perceived as black says they were in a majority European-American neighborhood and felt singled out by police due to their race, they were blaming all white people? I don’t think so personally. You might disagree.
I also notice that no one has opined on how many times I’ve done the same to others as I’ve experienced. Of course, the average person categorized as “black” has experienced worse than that. If I am considered a racist due to people categorizing me as “white”, then people actually harassing me due to my race makes them a super-deluxe racist, and KKK members and those police officers who are actively blase about racial injustice must be monster-mega-super-duper racists.
No they are blaming institutional racism, that is well documented.
Or do you think that “police” == “white”?
Now to be fair, this institutional racism is largely based in a system that was run by white people. But you chose your own words there.
Na, you are being called out as a racist because you blame people based on a trait that is not biologically significant due to the actions of the few.
You don’t get a ‘I am the victim’ card here and you are far more likely to be assaulted by another white person anyway.
Cite on my last claim.
No, I didn’t. I was providing evidence that the socially-imposed race of my harassers was important to them, not to me. I’ve been trying lately to always add the caveat that race doesn’t exist - which it doesn’t - even though it always makes posts a lot longer. If someone who says “fuck white people” can be written off as really meaning “a lot of people viewed as white behave pretty bad right?” then I don’t see how shortening an observation when the vast majority of people will understand you is not also acceptable. But if you’d like I can start exclusively using the terms “people categorized by society as ‘white’ even though race doesn’t actually exist” and “people categorized by society as ‘black’ even though race doesn’t actually exist” if you’d like. It wouldn’t be a big issue for me because I rarely feel the need to mention perceived race.