How about you look and see what transpired? In Post 15 I used the phrase “Time to wake the fuck up” as part os a general rant, directed to no one. Eve took the quote and used in responding to me specifically. I thought her tone was uncalled for (directed at me) and sent it right back to her. And then you tell ME to dial it back? Fine. Now tell HER to dial it back.
Look, toots. You directed your “time to wake the fuck up to me”. THAT is what was uncalled for. The first exchange you and I had in this thread is you being rude to me. So, you may want to reread you Miss Manners book before getting on your high horse.
My point does not go to this election cycle only. It’ is and has been part of the Dems strategy. Just as keeping the Tysons of the world supplied with cheap labor (and campaign coffers full) has been and is part of the Reps.
What do you base that on?
Um, if you noticed, the swearing was a direct quote from your post, which was addressed to those who believe that those born in the U.S. are (and should be) U.S. citizens, which is a part of the U.S. Constitution that I hold near and dear. In my 7,000+ posts on this board, the occasions on which I have sworn unprompted can probably be counted on one hand.
Until you can address me respectfully, I don’t see the point in engaging with you at all.
I mean give people that are here legally and causing no one harm time to get their affairs in order and move out. Give them, say, until May 1, 2011. If we catch you here after that, for any reason and through any means, you are banned from ever becoming a citizen or getting a green card. Fell free to move the date and play with the timeline. Maybe “never” becomes 15 years, etc.
Then don’t. Simple. My swearing was not directed at you, or anyone, it was just a part of a rant and was within the rules of this forum. YOU then took the quote and directed it me. I simply returned the crassness. So, the way I see it, you owe me one, possibly two apologies. One for directed that kine at me and the other, if you’re the one who reported it, for doing that. But I am a forgiving fellow. And will likely accept your apology and forget about it. Then it will be only Marley23 who owes me an apology.
I’m talking about people who are here now illegally.
For the record, I didn’t report your post - I have a thicker skin than that (though if you stand by your posts, I don’t know why you would care that someone brought one of them to the mods’ attention). But you’re going to be waiting a mighty long time if you are holding out for an apology for me, when I merely quoted your own words back at you.
Oh come on. Do you really not think that the fact that immigrants might vote for the party that is perceived as being more welcoming to them? And that the Dems don’t realize this? It’s a plain as the Reps doing it to keep large companies in some industries flush with cheap labor, which of course, they will show their thanks for through campaign contributions.
Ok, I noticed that, and I read her reply again, she is directing that insult to the idea, using your colorful language only to call attention to that silliness, I do agree that not turning it down a notch does not help your position.
Sometimes doing the right thing also takes using the sausage manufacturing facilities of US law.
Fine. Maybe you didn’t get to the Miss Manners chapter yet that goes to “when to apologize”. But let’s be accurate. My words were not directed at you. Nor anyone else. They were their for emphasis, fully within the rules of this forum. You took them and directed them at me personally. If you don’t see that blaring difference, that’s a problem you carry with you beyond just this thread.
Oh give me a break. She quoted me and lead off her response with it. And look at her response afterwards—she thinks it’s justified because of what I said. Thinking that it was directed at her.
Actually, I happen to have Miss Manners on the bookshelf, and have read it cover to cover on multiple occasions - maybe you haven’t made it all the way to the chapter where she explains that if you essentially tell people that they are oblivious for holding the opinions they do (rather than, you know, having reached different conclusions from the same information), and on which they have based their entire careers, they are likely to be miffed.
And if you’re going to weasel out of your clearly stated opinions that way, then fine, I was directing the swearing quoted from your post at the people who think the writers of the Constitution were a bunch of morons who didn’t actually understand what they were doing when they granted citizenship to everyone born on U.S. soil. My mileage obviously varies. Everyone here is free to decide which of us has a problem.
I’m not the one weaseling, Weasel, I STAND BY POST #15 COMPLETELY AND PROUDLY. On the other hand, you…
…you are the one who is weaseling here, Weasel. Reread Page 1of the thread, you directed you’re comment to ME. You did not (as I did) just offer an opinion to a general audience as I had done (see Post 15 again). Now when you’re called on making it personal you try to obfuscate, backpedal or, as you say, WEASEL.
:rolleyes:
Oh, and you might as well throw away Miss Manners. You obviously don’t understand what’s in it.
This is my last response to you in this thread, except to debunk anything else factually inaccurate that you might post. I’m done with your ilk.
And the WEASEL runs away… Unsurprising.
But I will thank you in advance for providing FACTS, and not your opinion. Though I’m gonna go out on a limb and predict that this last post of yours here will prove to be an untruth.
But before you go, do I get my apology?
Yes, and in the long run the GOP will be obsolete according to Steve Sailer:
Just so it’s clear, I am by no means leaving the thread; I am simply not bothering with one poster, except to debunk factual inaccuracies. So everyone else, feel free to post away.