Trump backs plan that would curb legal immigration

CNN report

Trump is backing a plan that would reform the legal immigration system to use a merit based scoring. The eventual outcome is projected to cut the number of green cards issued in half.

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So, my initial reaction is -If a related goal is to reduce illegal immigration, wouldn’t a consequence of these changes result in increased illegal immigration? As the folks who would have previously been allowed in legally are now prevented from coming in legally?

And wouldn’t this shift the impact of immigration on the labor pool from lower paid blue collar / service jobs to more higher paid professional / white collar jobs?

His party talks about illegal immigration constantly, and hasn’t been effective at addressing (requires introspection and thought) the causes or the effects. As a result of this ineptitude, going after legal immigrants just puts a fine point on the Republicans’ general belief about those who “don’t look like me”. Sad

My sense is that most of the folks with advanced degrees and skills needed by the economy wanting to immigrate to the US do not “look like me”. They look mostly like this guy and this guy.

I’m not talking about the people who want to come here. I’m talking about the morons that want to make it difficult.

I can’t really speak for them, but I think they’d say that the goal is less about ‘make it difficult’ and more about ‘make sure that those who do come here can support themselves’.

What specific outstanding problem exactly is this supposed to fix?

This is total crap. Just sounds like an expansion of the H1-B program. The goal of the H1-B sounds good, to bring in immigrants with specialized skills that are highly sought after. However, its real purpose is to hire cheap foreign labor to come to America so that businesses do not have to pay the higher salaries that American college grads demand, exacerbating the college debt problem. Make America great again, by paying foreigners half of what Americans would make in these professional jobs!

Again, just speculating, but hopefully it would reduce the % of immigrants that end up dependent on welfare. At least, that seems to be one thrust of the administration’s argument:

[QUOTE=the White House]
[More than 50 percent of all immigrant households receive welfare benefits, compared to only 30 percent of native households in the United States that receive welfare benefits.

Immigrants with a college education or higher are, on average, less likely to be welfare recipients than those without the same degree of education.](https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/08/02/president-donald-j-trump-backs-raise-act)
[/QUOTE]

Is even a single claim in that press release true?

I don’t know, let’s start with the two sentences I quoted. Are those true or false?

How do you figure that? Is your assertion true of every country that restricts immigration or has a border?

So they’re going to decrease the number of H-1B visas, which are already a nightmare to get and keep? Or decrease some other number of visas?

This sounds like a great way to increase the number of illegal immigrants, or to move certain companies’ hiring outside the USA, which are both things the fat cats are probably OK with.

No way this is going to fly. Still, we’re damned glad right now that the wife moved here and obtained her green card last year already.

Of course they’re true! I always trust unattributed statistics from the White House.

I mean, it’s not like they’ve ever lied before… :rolleyes:

Your post is snarky and sarcastic, and seems to suggest that you believe those two sentences are lies, but you appear to be avoiding saying it directly. Is it because you don’t have any evidence to support that position?

Wait until SCOTUS decides in Oct that Trump can cancel Green Cards for any reason.

So… would Trump’s wife (either 1st or 3rd) have qualified to emigrate under these rules? Are we that hard up for fashion models in this country?

…the fact check.

Someone on Twitter just pointed out that the countries which would most benefit from the new rules would be

India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Burma, Malaysia, Singapore, many of whom produce more engineering grads then they need and have English as an official language.

Smoking Hot, statuesque Eastern European models, not so much.

The Donald either wishes for a much more diverse and non white immigration pattern. Or he has not thought this through.

If you assume that first generation immigrants use more public funds than non-immigrants, that does not make the economic case against immigration. Not in the slightest. It could be that the remaining % do very well. Second generation immigrants have very high rates of entrepreneurship. What if they more than “make up” for their parents?

Also, fuck these people.

I can’t imagine the shit storm if, in the same day, Obama called the White House a dump and then Jon Favreau said the Statue of Liberty didn’t matter.