NFL 2020: Conference Championship Week

Ideally, Rodgers writes it off as a bad decision – Rodgers made some bad decisions himself on the field and has made bad decisions in past games. Granted, it’s tougher to accept that a coach is taking the game out of your hands but if he felt strongly about it, he should have lobbied harder to go for it.

As borchevsky said above, if Rodgers was thinking he was in 4-down territory, he should have tried to run it in on 3rd down instead of that terrible low-percentage pass he tried. Even if he doesn’t score, he definitely had enough open field to get it down close, and with 4th and goal at the 1 or 2, GB would definitely go for it instead of kicking the FG. So Rodgers should be laying down first before he throws anyone else under the bus.

I’ll defend the 4th down call as not terrible (I don’t think it was right, but it wasn’t that far off). If they go for it, they need to score, score the 2 point conversion, stop the Bucs from kicking a field goal, then win OT. The field goal means they need to stop the Bucs from getting a first down and then score a TD, but then they just win straight out. Stopping Brady from getting a field goal is certainly easier than stopping him from getting a first down, but winning instead of OT is a 50% improvement. I think that a TD from the 50 isn’t much less likely than a TD on 4th and 8 plus a 2 point conversion.

Stafford for Goff and picks

Good. Stafford deserves better than Detroit has put around him.

Makes me wonder what Indianapolis is planning on doing.

Same, I’d heard plenty of rumors about Indy wanting Stafford.

There are options, maybe somehow they could get Watson?

I’ve also heard about them potentially getting Sam Darnold, assuming the Jets use their bevy of early draft picks to get a promising rookie QB. I’ve listened to opinions about Darnold being better than he seems, and that he would be better if he didn’t have to play for a dumpster fire team. I’m not convinced.

Well, with Costanzo retiring, there’s a hole on the blindside, so they have to address that before whatever QB ends up paralyzed.

I wonder if the Lions and Colts have something planned now, where Goff is sent to Indy.

I’m really curious to see where Watson ends up, if indeed he is traded.

Right now, acquiring Watson would be a quarterback upgrade to all but about a half-dozen teams. IMO, this list would include Bills, Browns, Bengals, Chiefs, Chargers, and perhaps the Dolphins. If Dallas re-signs Dak and GB keeps Rodgers, they are on my list as well. All other teams should be on the phone to Houston.

I’d love to see him land in Indianapolis, but they’d have to go overboard to get Houston to trade him within the division.

This Lions deal is a weird one. The Rams had a give up a lot of picks for Stafford, but I’m sure 90% of that was the penalty for taking on that albatross Goff contract. So it’s not going to be super instructive on what the going rate is for a guy like Watson.

Some team is probably going to go batshit and give up a decade’s worth of picks, I’m as hardcore as they come when you talk about moving heaven and earth to land a franchise QB, but I don’t think I want the Bears paying this price.

I agree. I admit that I have not been following the careers or Stafford or Goff closely, but on the face of it, it seems to me that the Rams gave up way too much here. Has Goff really regressed so much?

I don’t think Goff regressed so much as he was never that great. He has a ceiling and he’s been bumping against that. McVay has had a program that allowed the Rams to be successful on offense but it seems like it’s not enough anymore. They decided that they can’t work with him anymore and they need more at that position. My personal WAG is that Gurley was so good he could make up for a weakness at QB and that his regression (due to arthritis) exposed the weaknesses.

By the way, I heard on the radio that Goff was the Rams’ last 1st round pick (back in 2016) and with this latest deal they won’t have another one until 2023. Ouch. :face_with_head_bandage:

ETA: I’m remembering wrong, their next 1st round pick will be 2024.

Goff has been a starter for 4 1/2 years. He is 42-27 as a starter. His career numbers are a 63.4% completion percentage, 107 TDs, 55 picks. Not terrible, but certainly not all-pro. His best year was 2018, when the Rams won the NFC. That year he threw for 32 TDs against 12 picks as the Rams went 13-3. Since then he’s thrown 22 and 16, and 20 and 13.

Stafford has been a starter for about 10 full seasons. He’s 74-90-1, 62.6% completion percentage, with 232 TDs and 144 picks.

For their careers, Stafford is 22nd best all-time for TDs to interceptions ratio. Goff is 23rd.

It should also be pointed out that Matt Stafford has worked with the following head coaches over the past 12 years:

Jim Schwartz
Jim Caldwell
Matt Patricia
Darrell Bevell
Robert Prince
Dan Campbell

They combined for 4 winning seasons.

My crazy prediction is that the Saints trade Taysom Hill, Jameis Winston, and draft picks to the Texans for Watson.

Goff was never that good…but they paid him a SHITLOAD of money after that Super Bowl appearance. At the time everyone realized that it was a bad contract but he took them to the Super Bowl, Flacco-esque.

This is basically a NBA-style trade. Shipping off a mountain of picks simply to convince a team to take back a atrocious contract. Rare in the NFL due to the non-guaranteed deals but that’s basically what this is.

I think New Orleans would be a good organization for Watson.