I had stuff to do this morning so I didn’t turn the game on until it was 24-0. I turned to my wife and said we’ll it doesn’t looked like I missed anything . . . and then the Chiefs scored. I’m not sure what happened to get us there but since I turned on the game its be 51-7 with 6 min left in the 4th.
Oh, so Lamar Jackson deserves all the credit when his team wins 11 straight games but now that it’s flopped in the playoffs, again, he shouldn’t need to shoulder his part of the blame for that? Football is a team sport, yes, but a team’s quarterback play goes a long way towards determining how a football team does. Relying on one’s athleticism is fine but after a while (and maybe not even a very LONG while) in the N.F.L. a guy playing quarterback has to bring more to the table than simply being able to run around to avoid tackles.
No, he good.
I understand what you’re trying to say, but I’m pretty sure those 24 points got a rather emphatic answer. ![]()
What a time to be alive!
Well, that was the first playoff game so far this season where an over bet would have paid off.
This is, quite frankly, another dumb take, and is a complete non-response to the post you were quoting, and to the broader discussion about the Ravens’ offense.
Sure Jackson has to take some blame for last night’s loss. He had a poor game. But he also wasn’t the sole reason for the loss, having been let down by his receivers at least six times on dropped catches, and having also seen his defense steamrolled in a way that hadn’t happened all season.
Any team can have a bad game, either because they just (for whatever reason) make mistakes and fail to execute, or because they get outplayed by another team on the night, or they get some back luck, or some combination of those things. It’ happens to the best of teams, and to the best of quarterbacks. My point is simply that, if you look at last night’s game and, based on that one game only, start offering hot takes about Jackson’s lack of QB skills, then all it shows is that you’re one of those people who sees everything in cliches.
Just to be clear, I wasn’t necessarily blaming Jackson entirely for last night’s dud. I pointed out (as you did) that the WR’s choked by dropping pass after pass. I also put some of the blame on Greg Roman, who tends to fall in love with gimmick offenses which work well until they don’t – I lived in Niner land when he was in SF and the same thing happened out there with Colin Kaepernick. I’d rather get an OC who can utilize Jackson as a passer first and a runner second - I think Jackson actually can throw the football down field accurately.
Beyond that, some of Tennessee’s success – a lot of it, actually – was on offense and their ability to play old school “ground and pound” offense.
That’s she good. ![]()
Actually, what it shows is that I don’t buy into hype the way some people do. I’m not convinced that L.J. has all the requisite skills to be a consistent starter at QB in the NFL and his performance in his last two playoff games doesn’t do anything to change my perception on that count.
I’ll take the 18 point spot for the Pack at the half but as we’ve seen throughout these playoffs there’s no such thing as a safe lead.
Oh, you’re one of those, “If you haven’t done it in the playoffs, you’re hopeless” types of cliches. I get it now.
Clearly, after one’s first complete season, being the starting QB of a team with the best regular season conference record leaves enough doubt as to one’s bona fides re: being a consistent starting QB.
Riiiiight.
Again, might not be destined for the HoF. Might not ever win a playoff game. But at the very, VERY least, Jackson has earned the recognition that he can be a consistent starting QB, at the very least when combined with a reasonable team around him and a coaching staff that uses his skills.
I’d love to see the equivalent cliches about how inconsistent a starting QB Dan Marino was based solely on his playoff record.
Yeah, Andy Dalton never won a single playoff game yet I think he’s undoubtedly the greatest QB to ever play in the NFL.
Wellp, the 'hawks gave it a good shot tonight but I think they were hit too hard by injuries to be true championship contenders this season. I expect the 49ers to make it back to the S.B. this season but the A.F.C. championship game is a tougher call, for me. Given the difficulty that the Chiefs have in winning home playoff games I’m tempted to pick the Titans to win next Sunday.
Last I checked football is a team sport. So according to people like you and “mhendo” Lamar Jackson deserves all the credit when his team wins but when his team loses, well, his teammates let him down. Gotchya.
Never once said that.
Stop misrepresenting my argument. It’s dishonest.
My bolding.
Agreed. It’s no coincidence, in my mind, that three of the greatest quarterbacks in NFL history - Steve Young, Aaron Rogers, and Tom Brady - spent their first year or so sitting on the bench and learning how to be an NFL QB. (And of course, Young and Rogers had the advantage of backing up two more HOF quarterbacks, Joe Montana and Brett Favre. Talk about watching the best…)
At this same point in their careers, Colin Kaepernick looked like the quarterback of the future. Except, ya know, almost winning the Super Bowl.
I won’t anoint ANYONE after just one season. The rest of the league has an entire offseason to figure out what to do about Jackson.
Not that I disagree with the premise (though there are some QBs, like Russell Wilson, who have thrived by playing from Day 1).
But, that said, Young isn’t actually an example of this. He was a starting pro quarterback right away, coming out of college – just not for the 49ers. He signed with the Los Angeles Express of the USFL after leaving BYU, and started for them in both '84 and '85. After the Express shut down in '85, he signed with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and started five games for the Bucs in '85, and fourteen games in '86. At least with the Bucs, his stats weren’t particularly good (just over 50% completions, 11 TD versus 21 interceptions).
At that point, Young was 26, with four seasons of starting experience in pro football, between the Express and the Buccaneers. The Bucs drafted Vinny Testaverde with the first overall pick in '87, and traded Young to the 49ers, where he indeed backed up Montana for four seasons.