NFL Week 3

Will other factors/happenings like the 8 first half sacks be completely forgotten because of the spectacularity (yes, Firefox, I know it’s not a real word) of the final call? Probably. It’s basic psychology: it was the final moment, and it was flashy.

Dude, yours was the first comment I read on SDMB when I logged on and it is a perfect transcript of what every fan has been secretly thinking every game. I will not stop laughing. Plus one to you! :smiley:

Perhaps fittingly. It’s possible this was an amazing once in a career freak show of perfect pass rush, or possibly poor penalty calling from refs.

If only there was a way to be certain the refs in this instance are truly bad at what they do.

I don’t think so. Remember, as sloppy and crappy this game was for the GB offense and even the SEA offense, GB was ahead with 8 seconds. They block them to 4th down then a bad call changes a lot of things. There’s a conference loss for GB, an incorrect win for SEA, maybe playoff rankings, etc.

Meanwhile you’ve got every other team thinking, “when’s it gonna happen to us?” It makes the league look nuts!

There’s also the argument (in this very thread, IIRC, amongst other places) that the final call balanced out other bad calls against Seattle earlier in the game that helped GB (not to mention the snide comments about Super Bowls from Seattle fans, but I’ll let that one pass :)).

Not by the coaches I am sure.

Yeah that last play definitely proves that Bryan Bulaga was just the victim of poor officiating and not repeatedly manhandled by a rookie.

Can someone please tell me what pi call the Seahawks fans are talking about that kept a gb drive alive or something? Because I don’t recall anything of the sort. I do recall a marginal call, but nothing blatantly horrible like the ones the Seahawks got.

I’m just trying to imagine what Diogenes’ state of mind must be right now.

CRAP! You beat me to it. “For years of discrepancy, this is well deserved for such an over-favored dis-organization…” or something like that. Ah, I miss 'im for times like these. :frowning:

Yea, I’m done. That was the straw that broke the camel’s back for me in terms of watching this abortion of a season’s beginning. I might be back if the lockout is resolved, but honestly - I might not even bother.

Say what you will, that was an absolute bullshit game of refereeing, and the fact that people are defending the final call because it “makes up for” the other shit refereeing over the weekend is fucked up.

3rd down midfield. I’m not saying it wasn’t a PI but no regular official would have called it. Classic playing slap-and-tickle with the WR then going for the ball kind of hitting the side of the WR. That is called defensive PI less than 5% of the time. The other bad call was the spot upon review 3rd and 1 at the 2. He did not make the line of gain and it was overturned on review. Packers said later they would have kicked a field goal if he didn’t make it and so Seattle is down by 2 and only needs a field goal to win.

I’m also questioning the statement that Tate did not have possession. He had one hand on the ball but you do not need two hands on it for possession. I’ve seen many cases where a receiver hits the ground and holds on with one hand and maintains possession or even catches with one hand. What would you define as possession if a WR is touching the ball and in the process of catching the ball, the DB grabs the ball but never takes it away from the WR. Not to say it wasn’t an interception (I would have called it an interception) but is this a “Tuck Rule” technicality about what constitutes “possession”.

What’s interesting is that this is one of the rare situations in which you could reverse the outcome of a game. I mean, if they blew a call with 45 seconds left on the clock that allowed the winning team to recover the ball and kneel down to end the game, you could always say they could’ve fumbled the kneel-down or whatever, that we’d never know for 100% sure that if the call went the other way, the other team would win.

But in this case - last play of the game, and if it’s a completion one team wins, and if it isn’t the other team wins - this is the only situation in which you could correctly review the outcome and reverse it.

Not that I think the NFL would ever do that, and I doubt there’s even anything in the rules or bylaws that would support it, but it’s an interesting situation in that way.

If I were the real refs this week, I’d think about upping my demands. What’s the NFL going to do, let this go on for a real season? Fine, you guys want to be dicks about a few million? Let’s play hardball.

I think there’s a decent chance that call would’ve been overturned on review if it were in Green Bay. I think at that point if they had overturned the result the Seattle crowd would’ve rushed the field and raped and pillaged everything.

;d

The thought of a field rush might’ve been a edge on one side of the scale in these doofuses deciding process-- I will always laugh at the shot of one guy calling time and the other a touchdown, and I think they look at each other and still don’t know which body motion they should be using for the moment. :smiley:

As far as the penalties go and the coaches “statements” go, the NFL might not bend on proposed demands. “Yeah, our replacements aren’t that great, but hey, the coaches are apologizing, so the officials are the officials.”

I did not watch this game live nor did I care about the outcome. I saw the news headlines this morning about this bizarre ending to the Packers-Seahawks MNF game and I watched the final play. A few questions I have:

  1. Time had expired during the controversial touchdown play. Why was the extra point play necessary? That play was meaningless other than the final score being 14-12 instead of 13-12.

  2. Why is most of the ire on the net directed at the simultaneous catch, i.e. touchdown, call (well…okay the two refs gave mixed signals initially) instead of the no call on an offensive pass interference? The ruling of a touchdown and simultaneous catch did not strike me as absurd having watched the replays.

  3. I am no expert on NFL rules. Could someone possibly cite the applicable rule(s) and condition of the simultaneous Tate/Jennings catch that could justified an interception call? I’ve been reading the news blurbs on several websites and haven’t found the answer yet.

Personally, I think the games I have watched this season are more entertaining with the noob refs. I seem to be in the minority here,

If the defense had blocked the extra point, it could be returned for two points, thus tying the game. Which would have been hilarious.

Has anyone seen Hamlet?

Here (page 3 of pdf)

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Jennings hands were higher than Tate’s, he grabbed the ball first and pulled it to his chest. Tate reaches in to take it away. They end up on the ground, Jennings has both hands holding the ball to his chest, Tate is basically hugging him from behind, trying to get the ball. How they ruled that as simultaneous is beyond me.

That would have been very hilarious, because that can only happen on college football.

Why? Did something happen last night?

I must have missed it. I had dinner, went to my pottery class, played a little parchesi, and went to bed early with a nice cup of tea and a good book. Nothing of note really happened last night, I’m sure. Not one thing.

I’d tell you to come to Giraffe’s board and find out for yourself what he thought but you pretty much nailed it. When you lose your ability to channel him just pop over for a bit, it will come back to you in a hurry. :smiley: