Looked like an interception to me. How did it get past the review?
I don’t think simultaneous possession is reviewable, but I could be wrong.
As many calls that were blown in that game (from the little I watched) it seems appropriate that the game ended on a controversial call. The number of bad calls and no calls made in every game played this weekend gives every team out there reason to question the outcome of every one of these games.
Sadly, I think it will take this kind of thing to happen to a team like the Packers (a national favorite) rather than say the Redskins, Ravens, Rams, etc. before the outside pressure on the league will build to a force that will be felt.
If they’d called the blatant offensive pass interference, then the catch doesn’t matter. Game over, Packers win.
Werd
Simultaneous nothing, the ball was caressing Jennings nipples the moment his ass hit dirt. Too bad the Tate’s blatant push off wasn’t reviewable either.
Shitty refs are systemically changing the sport in a few games more than decades of NFL commissioner fiats.
Right, but that’s what they called on the field.
OK, blatant Offensive PI and an interception. Before that, defensive PI called on a play that was clearly offensive PI. Before that a roughing the QB on a perfectly legal play negating an interception. This is fucked up. Jesus Christ.
Oh, you won’t catch me saying they haven’t fucked up all down the line.
But this made up for the phantom defensive pass interference that extended the Packers drive where they took the lead.
The call at the end was a bad call - it was but no worse than the bad calls that gave the Packers the lead or the bad non-call on the final drive or the … well you get the picture. If this were the only bad call in the game then the Packers can say the game was stolen from them, but the game was given to them by the refs on their touchdown drive. Or maybe that was kismet for all of the bad calls earlier in the game or maybe THIS call was kismet for all of the games the regular refs have stolen from the Seahawks in the past.
And that is what pisses me off is that somehow this will be thought of as the one call that decided the game. It wasn’t but all of the focus will be on this call rather than every other call in the game that leaves us scratching out head trying to decide who really should have won.
Absolute classic: Golden Tate (the Packer who “caught” the final pass) being interviewed just now.
Tate: I played for God, one, and for my team.
Reporter: Did you push off?
Tate: I don’t nwyatabout. I don’t nwyatabout.
Somewhere, the Baby Jesus is crying.
I’m a Seahawks fan and I agree that last play was a joke, but it’s not like GB’s last drive was a thing of beauty as far as refereeing is concerned.
Sad thing is that the NFL owners are such sacks of dog shit that they will continue to play hard ball with the real deal, pretending like their product isn’t being flushed down the toilet. The only thing that will bring the owners to the table is a big drop in ratings, which ain’t happenin’
Which call are you talking about? The one the Gruden was bitching about even though it was a PI, actually. Anyway that was a bad call not an incompetnet call.
First of all, this fiasco was utterly brilliant TV. Made all the sweeter by my being a Bears fan. I mean, just terrific. I’m going to love rubbing this in at work tomorrow and it feels good to be on top of the division.
Second, set aside everything but the Seahawks defense was amazing in this game. Truly amazing. They’ll get overshadowed, at least until the extreme backlash swings back around the other way, but it’s worth noting.
Last, and I know I’m a long ways from impartial, but I didn’t see that call as nearly as obvious as everyone else. I think the TV announcers have colored the national dialogue on this one. From what I saw, Jennings had possession of the ball in the air and Tate got his arm inside of his chest and 2 hands on the ball before both players came down to the ground. Once on the ground it really looked like simultaneous possession to me. Jennings clearly had possession in the air, but that doesn’t count until they both establish position on the ground and that was much closer to simultaneous.
The announcers were trying to make some argument about the ball being on Jennings chest as being evidence of a catch or possession but that’s not a rule I’ve ever heard of.
The real crime was how poorly the refs owned the call. On guy calling one thing, on guy calling another. No discussion and a general lack of control all game long, amplified at the end. Bad calls during the entire 4th quarter benefiting both teams. While this call will get all the pub, it probably wasn’t the worst of the game. But the lack of clarity really made it all look worse.
ETA: This play reminds me of the Calvin Johnson non-catch a couple years ago. A play everyone agreed was blown at the time, but by the letter of the rule is probably at least arguably right.
A lot of people are talking about how this is finally going to force them to come to an agreement, but I’m not so sure. The scary part is, if the officials were ready to compromise on some things before and they were close, it’s possible that this game and the uproar will just cause them to dig in their heels and try to bargain from their new, stronger position.
You just described an interception. IF Tate had ripped the ball away and ended up with it, THEN it could have counted as a completion. But since Jennings had INITIAL possession, and they both came down with it, and both maintained contact with it on the ground (Jennings much more so, IMO), then it goes to the person who had INITIAL possession.
ETA: And I only saw that Tate had one hand on it, not two.
That’s not the rule. Initial possession has nothing to do with it when a player is in the air because you cannot have possession while in the air. By rule there is no possession. When the 2 players were on the ground - remember the controlling the ball all the way to the ground rule - Tate had both his arms wrapped all the way around the ball. Simultaneous possession always goes to the offense, period, it says nothing about initial possession.
He shoulda batted the ball away! End of game. Done.
BUT why should he have?? The thing was in his arms and Tate touches the thing, wrestles an arm in after gravity settles on them.
Most of the comments I’ve read online is Seahawks and Bears and Vikings fans saying, we like you lost, but that was an interception. You guys were robbed.
This better be a big chip in favor of getting the pros back for the pros.
(I will admit, this play, THIS ONE PLAY, if called right, would’ve given me a fantasy win too!)
Which is exactly why you should be upset as a Seahawks fan too. You think your next game won’t get stolen out from underneath you?