NFL Week 4

I also thought AI, but condensed games don’t even have added transitions. It’s just jump cut after jump cut of the full, unaltered video of the main broadcast. (Exactly as it should be, IMO.)

We can compare still images that should theoretically be exact matches even without AI, mapping every frame of the condensed game to its corresponding frame in the full game. Add logic to identify the contiguous blocks in the condensed game so you know where to mark the chapters in the full game and Bob’s your uncle.

I think they might need to put that homework clause back in to Kyler’s contract.

So much booing for the home team in this game.

Dammit Seahawks!

I’m glad you won but in the last 3 seconds? I swear I age a couple years every time they have a game like this.

Seahawks sucked. I fail to understand the thinking that just running the ball (which failed all game long) during the last six minutes of the game would guarantee a victory. It almost didn’t.

They dominated the vast majority of the game and did what was needed to win the game late.

They’re awesome, this is a bad take for anyone who actually watched the game.

I’m worried about Kenneth Walker. That boneheaded sportsmanlike ended up giving the rushing touchdown to Charbonnet by default when they sat him for the rest of the half. Then when he got back in in the second half it’s not like he was lighting the world on fire. A couple good runs, but a few more not so good. And then they pulled him on the goal line for Charbonnet again, though that touchdown came back because of a hold.

Charbonnet took a full step forward toward taking Walker’s starting job, at least to my eye. This is not a good development for my fantasy team, where Walker is my RB2 because Mixon is convalescing in an old folks home. Walker needs to have a good showing next week. You can do it, Kenneth!

EDIT: What is Charbonnet’s role? Is he the third down back?

I kept looking. #11 got the holding call, did nothing even remotely close to holding. Should have been the clinching TD right there instead of the field goal.

No, he and Walker are supposed to be a “double punch” duo, though Walker is still the main back. They swap them out situationally.

Walker is more of a punishing, smash into people guy, while Charbonnet is more elusive.

Charbonnet has seemed more efficient this year and some fans gave wanted him to be the primary. But either way, it’s still closer to a partnership than an every down back and a third down back.

Walker had over 100 total yards (including one reception that went long) so had a decent day, but he can be frustrating to watch.

I’m a lifelong Seattle fan so biased in favor of them and I saw it. JSN grabbed the guy as he fell and pulled him down with him. It might not have even been intentional but I understand the flag.

Did anybody catch the pause and side eye from the ref as he called the penalty and JSN said something to him in the middle of the announcement? That ref looked like he was about to throw another flag for it. I think it was lucky there wasn’t a harsher penalty.

Both JSN and Walker had uncharacteristic bonehead moves in the game, as they have been even-tempered professionals in their careers up until now. It was weird. They still both did some great things in the game and weren’t a net negative but I hope neither of them develops a bad habit.

I was quite surprised that the Cards didn’t go for two after their last touchdown. As it turned out, it wouldn’t have made a difference in the outcome had they converted two points, but given that they had been outplayed for 3 1/2 quarters, I thought that going for the win was the best move.

But I obviously don’t get paid the big bucks to make those kinds of decisions.

He yelled “That’s bullshit!”

The announcers were laughing about the look the ref gave him, the “don’t push it” Dad look.

That’s exactly what I was talking about. :laughing:

Yeah, the ref looked he was within a cat’s whisker of throwing a flag for unsportsmanlike conduct.

In other observations, I really hate the way Kyler Murray runs. I can’t explain it and it’s completely irrational - but every time he scrambles it pisses me off a little :upside_down_face:

Me too, but all that matters is that he’s fast.

But no, I don’t like it either. It looks weird.

Both the announcers and Periera said that he pulled him down, but for the life of me I couldn’t see it. This looked to me like a good block and then JSN went to the ground, and the defender was off balance and fell on top of him. There may have been the slightest hook from JSN on his arm, but if he yanked him down that’s the cleanest sneaky move ever. This penalty had the stink of those calls where an OL pancakes a DL so bad and drives him into the ground that the ref throws a flag out of pure reflex.

As has been said, he runs like a toddler who just stole your phone. It was true the first time I heard it, and it remains hilariously accurate.

I can’t find a better video of it than this one unfortunately. I wish there was one from a better angle or slow motion, like they showed on TV during the game. But at least in here, it looks like he pulls him down.

It’s very possible they both tripped and fell down together, and JSN wasn’t responsible, but it certainly looks like he pulled him down and if you’re an official watching it in real time, I completely understand why you’d throw the flag. It looks like JSN pulled down a defender who was in a place where he could have had a chance to go at Charbonnet, and stopped him from doing so through pulling him down, in which case it was a proper flag.

Going back to the “Dad look”, here’s a recap of that part:

It still cracks me up. :laughing:

When you search you can only find videos of the hot mic. Very annoying.

Can’t rule it out, and I agree that in real time it probably looks like a hold. Anytime a defender hits the turf the automatic assumption tends to be that they were pulled down. But here’s what I see. JSN lands on the elbow of “hooking” arm. If he pulled him, he let go before he falls. I don’t see JSN shift his hips or twist in any way that appears to apply force to the defender. This means that JSN clamped that arm for a half a second and dropped his body weight at the perfect time to throw him off balance but let go before the defender actually falls. Lastly, the defender doesn’t react like he was held and doesn’t appear to plead to the ref at all. Certainly not conclusive, but interesting.

Even if he did grab him momentarily, this falls into the category of “you can call holding on every play” type contact. Watching the replay it looks like the Tight End gets away with a bigger hold on Josh Sweat.

That’s one of those laws of football; you probably could if you were picky enough.

I think the NFL definition of holding is more strict than most NFL fans perceive to be holding. I don’t think “you could call holding on every play” is true.