I don’t think sex outside of marriage is a sin-and I’m CATHOLIC.
However, I myself could never have casual sex. It would have to be with someone I really, truely loved.
I don’t think casual sex is a sin, per se, but I do think sex should be something that isn’t treated so casually. I’m not talking about people having sex without love, or casually-I mean, people not taking it seriously, because of all the crap we used to have to wade through from young teens over at SAAN. (I personally don’t think people should have sex when they’re young teens-I think you really are better off waiting, because most of the kids I saw were pretty damn immature.)
YMMV.
That out of the way-I would probably watch the special, maybe, with my kids. Although, I’d probably tell them how I felt before, so I don’t see the point.
I remember in my Ed Psych course, we read Heather Has Two Mommies. And all it was was this little girl, her two moms, her cat and her bird.
It was a great story. The ONLY objection the class had to it wasn’t that it was about a lesbian couple, but that when they talked about her mothers, they said, “The doctor took some sperm and inserted it into Mommy Kate’s vagina”…
Personally, I do NOT want to have to explain artificial insemination to a young child, who might find that really confusing. I’d rather if they had said that Heather was adopted-they chose her because they wanted her. Not that I think there’s anything wrong with insemination like that. Just that I think it might be a little over kid’s heads.
What would happen if one cartoon was introduced on say Nickolodean or Cartoon Network about a gay character, or even a gay character who was a parent?
Would it fly?
Would there be lots of objections?
I would think there would be a LOT of objections. Although, the Simpsons has a regular gay character (Smithers) and has had at least one guest character (Homer’s secretary). Nobody has really raised a fuss which does surprise me a little.
They used to show the Muppets cartoon on Nickelodeon, which everybody knows features some sick bestiality. Kermit and Miss Piggy aren’t the same species, hell Gonzo is a chicken f***er…
John Waters’ character name on the Simpsons was John, or “gay John” as Homer called him.
Actually, there are several cartoons that imply certain characters are homosexual. One of the guys on Time Squad (sorry, I haven’t seen it enough to know the character name), Trowa and Qatre on Gundam W were certainly implied to be “more than friends”, I remember some jokes about Filbert the turtle on Rocko’s Modern Life, one of the neighbor families on Baby Blues is a lesbian couple (although that show sucks), and that’s just sticking to cartoons on the kids channels…
While I havn’t seen much Gundam, it’s pretty common for such elements to be clipped out of the cartoons when they reach the US. I remember several characters being clipped from Cartoon Network showings of anime. There was some mention of Gundam (Might be the same two characters you listed). Fred Lo (?) in Outlaw Star. Couple others I can’t remember right now.
Cartoon Network in particular seems to dislike showing anything that could possibly be construed as "sexually suggestive), wether it’s from adding a swimsuit to characters (Which you can’t see anything on anyway) to removing gay characters that don’t even do anything nearly explicit…
Actually, the sequence with Trowa and Qatre stranded alone in the desert was pretty blatant. It was all implication, but Cartoon Network didn’t cut it (at least for the late night showings).
I should say, regarding the gundam W hijack, that it was never explicitly stated that those two characters were “in love”. I’m positive Cartoon Network would have cut that, but I must admit that when I watched the “late night” showing of the series I was pleasantly surprised that they didn’t feel the need to cut the scenes of Quatre mooning over Trowa, and left the implication intact. In fact, at one point in the story line Quatre’s “feelings” for his friend prevented him from going on a rampage in a killer robot.
I can just see some fundie reading this and making a phone call to the Christian Coalition.
“Uhm, we have a big problem here. The Simpsons endorses homosexuality. Call all of the advertisers and demand they pull their ads.”
Also, I find it fascinating that those who said “I don’t want others telling my child what to think, that is my responsibility as a parent” are all up in arms about the pledge of allegience not containing the words “under god”. Isn’t it your responsibility to teach your kids about God and not something that should be contained in a patriotic statement that is manditory in the school system. Or does the irony escape you?
C’mon, MusicGuy, if Fundamentalist Christians were capable of perceiving irony and distinguishing logical flaws in arguments, they wouldn’t be FCs. It takes a certain credulilty to fall for that nonsense in the first place
Sounds like a great idea. Parents who want their children to watch can do so; those who don’t, don’t have to. Far better than trying to force something into a public school curriculum.
Except, of course, for the fact that the kids who most need to see shows like this, or attend school seminars on gay issues, or have an after-school social group of gay kids and straight supporters, are the ones whose parents are most likely to forbid them from attending or seeing such. The kids with positive and understanding parents have the support and understanding and knowledge that they aren’t some sort of sick pariah who deserves to be alone and unloved (or worse, better off dead).
Unfortunately, the ones that don’t want their kids to watch usually don’t want the other kids to watch either so they organize boycotts to try to keep everyone from watching.
>Except, of course, for the fact that the kids who most need to see shows like this, or attend school seminars on gay issues, or have an after-school social group of gay kids and straight supporters, are the ones whose parents are most likely to forbid them from attending or seeing such.<
I don’t suppose you imagine that they should be FORCED to watch it, do you? The more you try to FORCE anything on people, the more hostile they will become about it. Try to force something like this on their children, and you’ve got a problem.
I’ve re-read the post of mine you quoted three times, and can’t find a single instance of the word “force” in it. Nor such related words as “compulsory” or “mandatory”.
The only compulsory gay-related thing I’d advocate for schools is an inclusion of sexual orientation in general non-harrassment overviews.
Unless you have some distorted definition of “force” in mind that includes allowing students to attend a gay/straight alliance meeting or some such thing against their parents’ wishes or without their parents’ knowledge. I don’t consider that “force”. Some might, though.
Nobody has any business involving children in anything, much less a homosexual meeting, against their parents wishes or without their parents knowledge.
