So like you said in the Pit, it’s the nuclear bomb. I’m wondering how egregious they consider his conduct to be.
Remember, though, that there is also “temporary disbarment”, more accurately described as a suspension of license for a fixed time (notable recipient of such disciplinary action: my favorite former Prez, Bill); and that in some jurisdictions even the “permanently” disbarred can after X time has passed plead the State Highest Court for a reinstatement.
Unfortunately, he has; here a link to the Durham-in-Wonderland blog (scroll down near the bottom to “Jesse Jackson’s Moral Certainty”)
You’ll find the esteemed Reverend noting that he refuses to make any apology for any of the many false statements he has made about the case, because the lacrosse players were really to blame “They did put themselves at risk, and therefore they had to pay a real social price for it” (that social price including slanders from the likes of Jesse).
I think what he actually said is that he will resign. As of this minute, I believe he’s still DA.
Some see this as a calculated attempt to mitigate the punishment that bar will be handing out tomorrow. Among them is Joe Cheshire, a lawyer for one of the lacrosse players. Here’s a fascinating video interview with Cheshire: an intelligent, articulate, angry man worthy of attention.
He makes a very fundamental point: Nifong claims to have believed Mangum; she said her attackers ejaculated. So he looked for DNA from lacrosse players - and found there was none. Thus, prior to any indictments, he learned that the “victim” - whose claims he has long maintained were the essence of his case - was a liar. What is his response? He proceeds with indictments and a massive disinformation campaign.
Sadly, from what I heard on NPR the other day, the odds of his being disbarred are close to nil, based upon past (in)action by the NC Bar. Continuing to let this shitheel practice law is a travesty.
Nifong has been found guilty on 27 of the 32 charges. The penalty phase of the State Bar hearing is next. It will be astonishing if the penalty is not severe.
Woot!
Anybody want a beer while we wait for the penalty phase?
A bizzarre finish: with the punishment being deliberated, Nifong requests disbarrment and waives his right to appeal. The panel appears to take rather little notice of this, and continues to deliberate.
They announce their decision: disbarred. “At the root of it was self-deception arising out of self-interest.” Aggravating factors outweigh mitigating factors. Dishonesty and deceitfulness call for severe penalty.
The next issue will be the possibility of criminal charges.
I also imagine there will be some civil suits in Nifong’s future. For his sake, I hope he retains better attorneys than he did for this hearing.
Explain to me why the dancer is not facing any criminal charges? There seems to be a lot of talk about her mental problems and such. Does she truly believe she was raped in the bathroom by the three players?
From what I’ve been able to put together, and for obvious reasons there’s a fair amount of closed-mouthedness about an ongoing legal situation, Ms. Mangum is arguably clinically/legally insane, irrational and able to convince herself of matters contrary to fact – or even to her story of the day before, and aver it as what she clearly believes.
For Nifong to have used her statements as evidence is poor prosecutorial practice, but to go after her for perjury is probably equally a miscarriage of justice. It would be like prosecuting someone who is prepared to testify under oath that the little green men from the flying saucers are the ones who actually did it – and mean what s/he says in his/her testimony.
Was it known before she made the claims that she has mental problems? Or did that come out after the DNA evidence proved what she said happened didn’t?
And she has a child? :eek:
If I recall correctly, Nifong knew before the players were indicted that Crystal had previously made false rape claims.
I belive she has more than one child; she had a baby while all of this was going on.
While I don’t think pressing charges against her would be of any benefit it bothers me to see her getting away with it. Victims of sexual violence have had enough trouble being taken seriously; her little drama queen stunt could be seen as a good idea by some other crazy drama queen.
… and not a word about Nifong.
Priceless. One gags on the irony.
Is that the sound of a glass house shattering under a steady hail of stones?
Perhaps it is.
Perhaps it is.
Perhaps we all can see quite clearly just where this “prodding” ought to start.
Then again, Nifong has not resigned so in some people’s eyes, being Disbarred by the State Bar is nothing. Nothing at all. :rolleyes:
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In fairness there were some very heated debates on the case and a number of posters here seemed unwilling or unable to listen to any point of view that might suggest the players were innocent.
That said, there were also a number of posters who rationally and openly debated the issue.
The “Group of 88” are a disgrace. Misunderstood my arse.
It’s interesting. The Group of 88 exists in a world of their own construct and they make the rules. They created their group, and they made their statements. However, it is the unique world of Academia… and so they are immune from outside criticism. They will get to remain silent, never to be held accountable for the slanderous statements that the signators of that group made publicly.
Why? Not because they were right, but because they get to hide behind the cloak of Academic Freedom Of Speech. The college will not censure them in any way, you can be most sure of that and any outside criticism will be met with exactly what it has been met with so far- utter indifference and silence.
Sad? Yeah. Predicable? You betcha.