Nintendo Wii U

Am I doingit right?

Whaaaa? Then what’s the point? I thought this was a rehash of the old Four Swords Adventures stuff.

Not big on the screen though. I want to look at one thing, either the TV or the handheld, back and forth is hard. Didn’t like that aspect of Four Swords.

Will buy near the end of lifecycle when its Zelda game comes out.

That’s not a touch screen. All they are doing is combining the Wii with the DS–the two most popular consoles.

I like the bits where the controller is providing another window onto the TV screen, a zoom or whatever. If that works smoothly enough, it could change all sorts of things. Flicking the shuriken onto the TV also looked cool, though I’m not sure how generally-applicable that is.

And if it works with multiple controllers, you could do things like multi-player card games in one living room. Put the shared cards and an animated dealer on the main TV screen, and then each player’s controller shows their own hand.

I spent about three hours in line today at E3 so I could get a hands-on with it. Overall, I wasn’t very impressed with it. I was really hoping that I would like it after getting to play with it for a bit, but it just feels like an addon for the Wii. Maybe this will all change once we get closer to the launch, but I give it a big resounding “meh.”

I was thinking that once I got to play with it I would get it, but it just seems like they added half of a DS onto a controller and called it a day.

Apparently WiiU is going to have a gamertag-style online account, rather than friend codes. So hallelujah to that if it’s true.

No, but similar, with regards to having your playbook secret there in football games, for example.

When it was first announced, this seemed less crazy than the Wii, but still interesting. The apparent news that you can only connect one controller (of the type shown - with the screen thingy) takes it from ‘interesting’ down to ‘baffling’… the idea of multiplayer with private screens immediately made me think of loads of interesting things that could be done; without that, none of them are possible and none of this makes sense to me. I guess I’ll wait and see where they’re going with it.

All they’ve said is 2012. Although last month, during quarterly a financial report, they said it wouldn’t be out in the current fiscal year, which ends March 31, 2012.

So April at the earliest. But we would have seen more at E3 if that were the case. It needs one more E3 at least to get buzz going so next July is the absolutely earliest it could be released.

Awesome! And for the price of one console game I could buy about 35 (give or take) decks of standard cards and do the same thing around a table and probably get even more hours of enjoyment plus better social interaction.

Console for card games? Really? Have we sunk that low?

ETA: (Granted this doesn’t include the fact that a console will allow you to play online, but you can find sites that let you do that for free.)

OK, now play a game of partners bridge with just you and one other person, and one of those $3 decks of cards. And it’s not like that’s the only thing you can use it for, either.

I’d guess something like 90% of the local multiplayer is going to be a dungeon and dragons thing where the host is the dungeon master who sets up challenges for the other players. It’s the only way it could possibly work. Sucks that the pad is useless for online, since taking your eyes off of the screen or hands off of the controls is almost always a bad idea. At least, it is for the games I play, but those aren’t the games Nintendo’s fans play, so I don’t really know.

I’ve always wonderd why I can’t use my DS with a Wii.
A perfect case would be a footbasll game. If I can choose my plays on ym DS and they only appear on the DS my opponent c an;t see what I’m doing. It makes a lot of sense for many games to have small individual screens as well as a large shared main screen.

Notice I said price of a game, not price of a console. (I was figuring you can get a generic deck of cards for a buck and a half.) Why buy a console card game? You can play card games online for free, including partners bridge.

Technically the systems do have this capability, but very very few games use it. Which of course raises an obvious question.

Because requiring people to buy a $150+ peripheral to play a game is probably not a good idea.
EDIT: It would have to be an unessential feature, which means it would probably be tacked on at the end. With the limited number of people who would use it, why bother?

The DS is one of the top-selling systems of all time. There is considerable overlap in ownership between the two, most certainly in the millions. The idea wouldn’t be that people buy a DS for the game; it would be marketed to Wii owners who already have a DS.

A larger number of games used the Gamecube-GBA link, which required a cable to be purchased separately. At least two Gamecube games required the GBA link for pretty substantial portions of gameplay (FF Crystal Chronicles and Zelda Four Swords), and many more used it for optional extras. One would think that using a DS in conjunction with the Wii would be even more widespread, given the larger installed bases and the lack of a necessary accessory. I can only include that the feature itself – having a screen in the controller – isn’t very compelling, at least to game developers.

The capability has always existed, just very few games use it. Pokemon Battle Revolution was released on the Wii Summer 2007, about 6 months after the Wii launched. The capability was exactly what you described. In multi-player mode, battlers could pick their next move on their individual DS touch screens , then together see the outcome of the battle on the TV. Up to 4 DSs could connect.

My fear is that the system is much too complex for third partys to invest money developing games for. We’ll end up with the usual ground breaking Zelda/Mario/Metroid titles that will earn kudos but we’ll never see an outside company make a game that pushes the system’s potential. And they’ll be sure to stretch out the release of these games over a number of years so players will wait months upon months between decent titles.

Will DS and 3DS games play on the Wii U?

I’ve always thought that it would be brilliant if a company allowed the portable games to be played on a TV if people wanted to.

I really wanted to play Okamiden and both DS Zelda’s, but I don’t want to go out and by a DS right now. However, I would buy a Wii(or Wii U) if I knew those games would work as well.

I don’t even care how bad the games might look on a TV. And the Wii U could limit them to being played on the controller if they wanted to.