No Carb Diet

That gallbladder comment scared the daylights out of me. I’ve known several women who have had theirs removed. I fully intend to die with as many internal organs as I was born with if I can. Appendix and tonsils can go - I’m taking the rest to my grave.

I’m just tired of all the diet rules changing every other year or so. I’ve been on a diet almost as long as I’ve been alive. Does anyone else remember when Weight Watchers demanded you eat liver a few times a week? They changed their minds when cholesteral become the enemy. Now cholesteral isn’t that bad anymore. Whatever they say is good or bad this week will inevitably be refuted next year.

My grandmother had an obsession with weight - she was reed thin until she reached menopause. Looking back at pictures, I was not a fat child but I clearly remember her putting me on 300-400 calorie a day diets. She gave me broth and very little food. My mother escaped her clutches but my aunt weighed around 65-70 pounds when her heart finally gave out. I’m not obese but I would like to know what it’s like to be a 6 or so sometime before I die. Has yo-yo dieting since childhood ruined any chance of this?

Patebh: Maybe i should have stressed that my mom THINKS the Atkins diet **may[/B} have CONTRIBUTED not done her gall bladder in :). Most likely it was my twin brother kicking the shit out of it while in the womb that killed the thing. Again I am not saying that it was the Atkins diet that did it :).

To the medicos in the house, could a diet like the Atkins Diet adversely affect the gall bladder?


Time was I stood where thou dost now
And view’d the dead as thou dost me
Ere long you’ll lie as low as I
And others stand and gaze at thee

When I was younger, I went on the Scarsdale diet a few times, and it always worked. I’d drop a pound a day like clockwork.

The Scarsdale was another high protein/low carb diet. His claim was that the body would kick into Ketosis, which would cause it to shed calories quickly. His term was “Fast Fat Metabolism”.

And he admitted that it could damage you in the long run, especially the kidneys. So you were never, ever supposed to stay on the diet for more than 2 weeks. His point was that you can eat NOTHING for two weeks and be fine - it just isn’t long enough for anything permanent to happen to your body. Another advantage of the 2-week thing was that it was easier for discipline - you knew to the day when you were going off the diet.

That said, I must say that my wife scoffs at this stuff, and she’s a professional who makes her living treating eating disorders. According to her, it’s very simple - eat more food than the body needs, and you’ll get fat. Eat less, and you’ll burn fat. Everyone’s body has different levels of efficiency, so some people can eat more without gaining weight. But if you are overweight, you have two options - eat less, or exercise more. Preferably, some healthy combination of the two. The fad diets are a waste of time, and the only ones that work are the ones that actually restrict caloric intake along with whatever ‘magical’ combination of carbs or proteins they have. And the only reason they work is because of the calorie restriction.

There’s a french guy who has a book “Eat out and lose weight”. His suggestion is to have separate carbohydrate and no carbohydrate meals. The fats and carbohydrates (chips, french fries)are the worst according to him.

Stoidela, I am not saying that this is normal or healthy for everyone to lose 27lbs in a month, but it has been healthy for me. I have not felt this good in a while.

Eat what your body needs for the weight you want to be. Search for Basil Metabolic Rate to determine what this is.

Exercise at least three days a week and if you are very overweight exercise 5 days a week.

Drink 64ozs of water a day minimum and another 8ozs for every 25lbs you are overweight.

Example if you determine that your body needs 1500 calories a day for your goal weight and you cut down to that while maintaining balanced eating and add exercise of 30 minutes a day or more (you must get your heart rate up to your training zone and go for more than 20 minutes to really burn the fat) and drink the water (water helps the body empty the waste products of the burned fat along with allowing the kidneys to do their job and not having to use the liver frees the liver up to do its job of burning the fat).

If you burn 3500 calories more than you take in you will lose 1 pound.

If you eat 2000 calories now and cut to 1500, that alone is 1 pound a week (500 per day * 7 days) Add in an additional 300 calories in your workout a day and you can burn about another half pound for the week.

Build some muscle through strength training (toning, weight lifting, etc.) and that will burn even more fat.

You are a fat burning machine, you just have to turn it on.

Jeffery

Basil Metabolic Rate?!? “I must have Fettucine with Pesto at least 3 times a day in order to stay healthy”

hahahhaha!

Something else to think about. Nutritionally, almost everyone assumes that 3500 calories equal one pound of fat. Thermodynamically, this is true but I say that metabolically it is not. Consider this: If all your intaken calories are processed, then your body’s urine and feces would have no caloric content. Interesting thought, is it not?

Athena, I am not sure what you are getting at.

rseneres, are saying that this is true or speculating?

From your post, you say that if all our food intake is processed, but what if some is not processed? That is what if you eat 1500 calories and your body only extracts 1300 calories and expells the other 200 cal in your waste byproducts. Just wondering.

Jeffery

I was apparantly making a very bad joke on whoever had the typo and spelled Basal Metabolic Rate as Basil Metabolic Rate. And, it was right before lunch. Sorry.

And I don’t believe that we digest all the food we put into our bodies. To put it bluntly, I’ll use Fat Bastard’s line from the second Austin Powers movie - “I’ve got pieces of corn in my crap bigger than you!”

Wasn’t there a thread on this not too long ago?

I misspelled basal. I am sorry. I thought that might be what you were referring to, but I was not sure.

Jeffery

I saw this story as I was flipping around on the TV on Saturday. I thought it fit with the topic.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/320873.asp

It seems that one problem with the low carb diet is that it is not a life long change. If you try it can be dangerous. As soon as you go back you likely gain the weight.

One thing brought up on the show was that part of the problem with people’s food choices today is, the carbs they choose. Another is the amount.

Someone said that they could not eat the 6-11 carbs suggested each day. The story said that the standard size bagel that most people eat is 4 to 6 of those servings. I think it is a lot easier than most people think. Especially since potatos and corn are starch and not vegetables.

But think about what is generally offered to us each day.

Most breakfast foods offered in meetings are dougnuts or danishes. There are cookies or brownies offered. The sodas alone can kill you (calorie wise).

Jeffery

Well then I can handle that ('twas me who said that :)). Actually I am eating that much in carbs daily now (i would eat more before i started really thinking about what I ate). I actually could not stand the amount of fat that they were describing in the story. That’s too much and too much fat just makes me think “eww”. I mean cream diluted with water? I personally think 2% milk is too rich and dont like drinking it let alone cream diluted with water.

Yeah, I drink skim milk myself.

The typical meal plan they showed in the story did not seem to appetizing to me.

Jeffery