No CLASS Obama!

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Congress should not have passed the CLASS Act. Discuss.

Or:

Resolved: Congress should not have passed the CLASS Act.

I think they had a “pass it now and fix it later,” attitude.

So, at what point did your child prodigy identify the lack of financial viability? Was it at the time the act was being debated, or was it after the administration withdrew support for it? For that matter, are you on record with your own foregone conclusion for CLASS at the time the act was being debated? Easy to say it now, not so prescient if you said nothing two years ago. And general opposition to the whole health care reform act doesn’t count; show us where you specifically opposed CLASS at the time.

If the people are going to cost BRICKER money, they should be prepared to die. Even a 5th grader could figure that out.

He says

Which I assumed meant: Bricker browbeat the boy into looking up from his video game and saying, “sure, dad, whatever.”

They cost me money too, and all the other people who bought insurance. We were told it would create a savings. It did not.

It’s easy to spend other people’s money. It’s even easier to pass that obligation on to generation after generation. Maybe the 5th graders don’t want your share of the debt. Ever think of that? You’re certainly not going to pay for it. The CLASS part of the bill was bogus math from day one. It was not a guaranteed revenue stream and as such was the devil in the detail.

And here we are, 3 years of hope and change later. This is what you get when people rush through legislation before really hashing it out. When you consider how much money is represented in the legislation, how far in debt we already are, and how integrated the policy links us to the government, it represents the single most important piece of legislation in the history of the country.

Actually some parents are capable of teaching their children basic financial responsibility. It’s what got me through 3 1/2 years of unemployment.

I suspect Bricker’s kid will be hiring your kid to mow his lawn.

Gosh it’s fun attacking other poster’s children.

So which Fox talking head highlighted CLASS last week? When all our conservatives start barking in unison, you know someone is blowing a whistle somewhere.

Did you really think that was an attack on his son? Because I don’t assume he was poring over the details of the health care plan on his own and deriving independent conclusions uncoached by Bricker? No, I was just apply Occam’s razor to Bricker’s self-serving anecdote.

I just explained all of this to my 13-month old son, and he said “hat hat hat!” which is obvious agreement with my own rather nuanced opinion.

It’s even easier to post misguided ideological harangues without responding to criticism.

Oh that’s classic. Blame fox for a Democratic legislation failure. Lets see:

ABC
CBS
NBC

They’re all against him. insert Mr. Bill Noooooooo here.

so it’s ideological to operate within a budget? Really? Better tell the Democrats in the Tea Party that. Maybe if you would open your eyes you’d see that the well entrenched Republicans are getting shit from the Tea Party also.

No, of course not. Do you even know what the responses to your bromides are? You’re that far removed from mainstream discourse and the content of this very thread? It would be a useful intellectual exercise for you to at least try to understand what the other side has to say.

When the other side can do 5th grade math we would all be on the same page. It’s not like Gingrich wasn’t talking about a Republican alternative after it was shot down last time under Clinton. It has to be financially viable. It really is that simple. Everybody would be happy.

Can you not see the world is teetering on financial collapse? It’s a house of cards.

So, it couldn’t go forward unless she signed off, and she refused. Bush would have fired her and put in somebody who would sign it. Hell, he never would have hired somebody that honest to begin with!

You’re living in a fantasy world of your own feverish making. There’s no sense arguing about reality when your perception is that this represented a failure of basic math. Have a nice day.

As honest as Hillary? That’s funny. This was a woman who sold short on pharmaceuticals while attacking them in the press. She’s as honest as the day is purple.

And why would you assume that? What possible evidence could you have relied upon to reach this conclusion?

Ok, more facts, some of which were already adduced in this thread.

We were eating dinner. CNN was on and ran the story of the concession that CLASS was unworkable. He was listening and at the conclusion of the story said, “Duh,” unprompted by anyone. I asked him what he meant. He replied as related in the OP.

Given these additional facts, would you care to revise your assumption?