Convicted of conspiracy to commit espionage, not of treason.
It is inevitable that whenever someone mentions treason, someone has to point out how it is defined in the Constitution. But some go by the colloquial definition of doing something to the severe detriment of the country. If extorting a foreign nation to make up dirt on your presumed opponent by withholding military aid already promised by Congress is not treason in the technical sense, it certainly is as commonly used.
What is abundantly clear is that Don The Con will undoubtedly pardon himself and his entire family as he is dragged kicking and screaming out the door. What isn’t clear is whether he can indeed do so. Reasonable people disagree but I believe that self-pardoning wouldn’t stand up in court and I do hope the prosecutors challenge it. Of course, he’s going to be tried for state crimes anyway and hopefully they’ll find an orange jump suit in his size.
Surprisingly, this thread has focused on treason, perhaps a sign of better days to come. 
But my poorly made point was that traditionally the US does not go after or try to prosecute previous administrations. I think this was one of the things that made this such a great country.
It is time to change that.
“Treason” is the stupid, contra-factual claim you posted. I’m just correcting your ignorance. I’d want someone with a lot more knowledge than you’ve demonstrated to look at evidence and make a determination if there are any crimes to be prosecuted or not. If they do so,and can convince a jury, then kudos to them.
This says it all. I have had political disagreements about presidents in the past, and even understood some level of presidential favoritism, but I believe they cared about the country. In this case I have no confidence in Trump that he cares about this country in any way. His actions seem to be self serving and not influenced by the responsibility to uphold the constitution and lead the nation in a way is not self serving.
I have no confidence in our president. I don’t believe he is acting in the best interest of our country.
Do you think “We need to prosecute to the fullest extent of the law, including Treason” is a reference to the colloquial definition or the legal one?
Having a Trump supporter calling something I’ve said “stupid” is a rich one. Having my “ignorance” corrected by such is even better.
But I am glad to see that you support prosecuting Trump. Perhaps there is hope for this country.
You still don’t understand that what you posted was wrong, do you?
I don’t. “If they do so,and can convince a jury, then kudos to them.” was an expression of indifference, not support. Quite honestly, I’d prefer to see the tradition that “the US does not go after or try to prosecute previous administrations” remain intact, but it’s a fairly mild preference, and the desire to see President Trump prosecuted currently exists only as a masturbatory fantasy in the minds of the far left, so at present I don’t see much point in arguing about that desire.
You still don’t understand that Trump is a lying thief, do you?
I yield to nobody as a full blown trump hater, but we can’t do this. The problems decent people rail about come from trumpists and Moscow Mitch ignoring the laws and conventions that have defined constitutional government. We need to throw trump ,his cabinet, and his nepotistic hell spawn into prison based on actual laws that they actually broke. Competent state and federal investigations will find plenty of those I’ll bet.
I’m sorry I misunderstood. You have a “fairly mild preference” that Trump is allowed to break the law with no repercussions. Perhaps I was too hopeful.
Yet “illegals” who break immigration law should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
The immigrants in question are brown. Trump is orange. The difference is yuuuuge, believe me.
I agree. Mostly. Prison based on laws they broke.
But no half hearted measures. We need to go back as far as the statute of limitations allows. Him, his “business” and his family. Then we need to see what Mitch et al knew about Trump being a Russian patsy. Fuck them. They may have ruined this country forever.
And in other news, the sky is falling.
You good with things?
My preference is that politicos not use criminal law to settle political disputes. I don’t think that’s healthy for the country. There’s a good reason it’s been a long-standing tradition here.
If there’s strong evidence that he did something seriously criminal, fine, prosecute him after he’s out of office, IDGAF. But this “orange man bad, we must get him” stupid witch hunt that you’re on about is idiotic. The police aren’t supposed to just endlessly investigate people whose politics they don’t like, rummaging around in their personal history, looking for something to charge them with. It’s an ugly look for you to be calling for that sort of thing.
I don’t like that he seems to be a criminal. All the legal bullshit he does that I disagree with is a a far fucking lower priority.
Oh my goodness.
Do you not see what is happening? Trump is currently USING THE OFFICE of the president of the United States to influence elections. “prosecute him after he’s out of office?”!!! How does one do that when his action of gaining the assistance of a foreign power to smear his political rivals are designed specifically to KEEP HIM IN OFFICE.
Do you honestly not see a problem with these actions? Is holding power THAT IMPORTANT to you that you can just look away?
Do you not think that withholding congressional money from a foreign country until they come up with smears against his political rival is “serious” enough? REALLY?