We could have done something about that, perhaps, if we had consistently backed Aristide.
John Flansborough and Mono Puff said it was Newport Town (Totally Rockin’).
You missed being Haitian, Ethiopian, Sudanese or Congolese by the luck of the cosmic draw. What have you done to improve US infrastructure? What part have you played in the creation of the relatively responsible and responsive system of government we enjoy? Who the fuck are you to presume you could run a country?
I hope your house collapses on you tonight, leaving you alive but terrified.
Let me boil down my position: I am tired of Haitian problems, I hear about them too much. I am tired of Haitian tragedies, they average two a year. I am tired of the “civilized world” thinking they can have a fundraiser and it will fix things. I am tired of people that think that if they talk about it they will make a difference. But mostly, I am just too tired of thinking about all the Haitian people that die from starvation, civil unrest, disease, and natural disasters.
It’s not that I don’t have empathy. It’s an empathy overload.
Their lives are horrible. We, sitting on our sofas in our comfortable homes, driving our late model cars, and typing on message boards in our climate controlled work spaces… we truly don’t know Jack Shit what their lives are like. Anybody posting from North Korea here? Darfur? Yet we pretend to care. Sure, we give money and it makes us feel better. But we only do that when tragedy strikes, and if we’re honest with ourselves we know that throwing money at something never fixes the problem. As soon as the tragedy isn’t in the news, we stop throwing money and forget about the problem. Out of site = out of mind.
I’m jaded. I’m calloused. But I refuse to be the self-aggrandizing patronizing bastard that thinks I can actually help by sending 50 bucks to Haiti. I can drive an excavator (but I’m no good with a dozer) and I’ve gone back to school in my mid 30’s to study nursing. I would jump at the chance to save people from that earthquake.
But I can’t. I’m not there.
To keep my sanity, I prefer not to think about shit I can’t control. I can make Brunswick Stew for Manna House, I can volunteer for blood drives, but I can’t help the people in Haiti. I feel for them, but I no longer care. It’s simply too tragic. There are six billion people on this planet. I can’t help them all.
It’s the monkeysphere
A better question would be : who the hell needs help from the Devil to kick out the French ?
Clearly the Archbishop was in league with Lucifer as well. It may as well have been Port-au-Prince-of-Darkness.
Out of curiosity, do the religious zealots without TV shows talk that garbage talk too?
Enough with your goddamn monkeysphere. We’re all aware of tragedy-overload, and the human inability to feel sorrow for every untimely death that occurs in the world. This:
is quite different from this:
this:
this:
…and just about every other post of yours in the thread. After I realized I was quoting every one of them in order, I stopped. I don’t know if you’re backpedaling, or if you poorly articulated your opinion in the first several tries, but saying “I am not humanly capable of hurting for every tragedy in the world” is quite different from “I’d have more sympathy if this happened in another country, but Haitians are idiots, so I don’t care about what happens to them.”
Last I heard, the U.S restored him to power, supposedly throwing in some Hope for good measure. I guess I’ll have to read up on what’s happened (or not happened) since.
No, but only because they don’t know where Haiti is.
And was the Devil wearing Underoos when they did?
Hell, fried chicken hadnt even been invented yet.
Now, now, be kind. He has a Palinesque working knowledge of Haiti:
I think you are having a problem following. Instead of posting my quotes out of context for the “gotcha!” I’m going to need you to think.
The first pair: Haiti makes me jaded and less sympathetic because I still see no reason after 206 years that they can’t be more like the Dominicans. Haiti is tragedy overload, The Dominican Republic isn’t’
Third quote: I rescinded, please try to keep up.
Fourth quote: Same thing I’ve been saying this whole time.
One other thing, MeanOldLady, your habit of posting multiple quotes takes away from your point (assuming you have one). Not only does it break the flow of your post similar to those idiots who double space everything, but it makes you seem extremely pedantic. You never seem to have a direction, and you think you can get by hoping quotes contradict. Try to bring an argument with your next post. And yes, I realize what you have just read is a bit pedantic,
Though I can’t see it from my house, there’s these things called boats. And the Caribbean is pretty. Cuba is fucking gorgeous.
I have no bone in this, but its funny that I was thinking something similar. Multi-quoting such as that above just looks like a dishonest attempt to “gotcha-ya”.
To my mind The Dangerous Monkey has made an honest attempt in this thread to explain his opinion and what lead to it. Nitpicking posts for contradictions isn’t responding in kind, and smacks of teenage message board points scoring.
Robertson’s main sources for his 1991 book The New World Order were the anti-semitic conspiracy theorists Nesta Webster and Eustace Mullins. In fact, Robertson cribbed long passages from Webster directly, without attribution, substituting other words such as “Illuminati” for “Jews”; you can read the details in Up From Conservatism, by Michael Lind. That’s the kind of mind he has.
So every time someone points out that what you’re saying now is different from what you’ve said earlier, you’ll wave it off dismissively as “gotcha!” games? That’s a very convenient way to not have to respond to what you’ve said. You said that you’ve “lost all sympathy” for Haiti because Haitians are stupid, and it’s their fault their country sucks. I find that to be repulsive.
Stop shitting me. You rescinded the bit about the DR being green and lush, and Haiti being covered in mud, but you didn’t rescind your point which was that Haitians are stupid, are responsible for the conditions in their country, and that you’d care what happened to them if they would just be better, like the Dominicans.
I’m multi-quoting again. Learn to like it. I was actually going multi-quote more, but it’s 4:40 which means I’m 10 minutes late for happy hour.
Honestly, I don’t care if you’re backpedaling or if your initial statements didn’t convey how you felt about the situation as accurately as you thought, and this is all supposed to be some sort of clarification. Much like your limited capacity to care about every tragedy in the universe, I’m limited in my capacity to care about every jackoff statement some guy makes on a message board. More tomorrow (if I still care enough by then)!
Oh bullshit. Some folks just like to make sure they address the points they want to address.
MeanOldLady, O.K. fine. I also rescind my hyperbole claiming “Haitians are stupid”. You got me on that one. Happy?
Now here’s the money question: I have stated my position as to why I no longer care about Haitian tragedies. The question is a two parter, so pay attention. 1)Why should I lose sleep at night over Haiti? 2)Seeing as you live in Southern Cal, why do you?
Oh no, you ain’t getting an excuse to get your knickers in a twist and post 60 bajillion times in one thread from me.
I is wise to your whiney ways.