Don’t lose any sleep over it, you callous bastard. I will lose some though, I have many dear well educated Haitian friends who are praying for their loved ones today.
Sleep well dickhead!
I know, right? This is the SDMB, Land of the Cite(!!!). I was trying to give specific examples of things he said that weren’t jibing with another. The best way to address what a poster says is to quote it directly. Duh(?). (I have way too much punctuation in parenthesis[!].)
I don’t lose sleep over Haiti, for the same reason I don’t lose sleep every time a single person anywhere gets beat up or killed: I am not humanly possible of grieving all suffering on the planet. We’re all intellectually capable of processing tragedy (well, most of us), but we cannot sincerely mourn every loss there is. That is not, and never has been, my beef. I’m a little perturbed by the inability to grieve all sorrow being nation-specific. I do not say, “A bunch of people died in a fire in England? How sad,” but say, “A bunch of people died in a fire in Iraq? Whatever, they’ve got enough problems. I’ve run out of caring for them.”
Your dismissiveness toward Haitian people, the fact that you claimed to have run out of sympathy for them because their country is ass-backwards and it’s their own fault, the fact that you may have summoned sympathy from someplace had this tragedy occurred someplace else, perhaps where the people weren’t so thoroughly responsible for the fuckedupness of where they were born, is what burned my coffee. You didn’t say, “Don’t mean to be crass, guys, but I have a hard time shedding tears over a bunch of strangers dying.” You said, “Don’t mean to be crass, guys, but I have a hard time shedding tears over a bunch of Haitians dying.”
Look, I’ll take all of your clarifications at face-value; you don’t actually think Haitians are stupid, the reason you’ve no sympathy for Haitians is not because you’re bothered by their unending insistence upon living in a crappy country, but because so much is wrong with Haiti, and you sincerely feel for them, that you have no room inside of you to feel for them anymore. Fine.
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No, no, that was me who was late to happy hour.
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I think if Al Swearengen were alive today he would say it best:
“I fucking hate that goddamned miserable motherfucking holyrolling hypocritical cocksucking asshole Pat Robertson who is a horseapple up the asshole of Christianity, and fuck those who send him money. Amen.”
To this I have no further comment.
*This being intended in no way as an insult to cocksuckers, many of whom are among my dearest friends. The same cannot be said of holyrollers. (Motherfuckers I take on a case by case basis since I have no personal point of reference, the only fucking I personally having ever received from my mother having been a legal one related to her estate.
I’m more puzzled than anything by Robertson’s comments. It just doesn’t seem to make a lot of sense to me, even for statements like this. It lessened with learning about the old story behind it, but it still leaves me shaking my head.
He also seems to be losing (or has already lost) a lot of people in his traditional support base, as in this blogger on a relatively prominent conservative site:
Which also points out what seems to be a pattern with Robertson. Has he always had this habit?
I’m sorry- up until last year, anyone doing English-language research on the Illuminati was pretty much limited to John Robison’s 1798 PROOFS OF A CONSPIRACY and the works of Nesta Webster. In spite of her anti-Semitism, she was the best source on the Illuminati out there. Fortunately, Terry Melanson’s PERFECTABILISTS* has now become the go-to English language resource on the Illuminati.
I never got hold of any Eustace Mullins material, for some reason, so I can’t comment on how much Pat used his stuff. I know he wrote a lot about the Federal Reserve, and I always relied on Gary Allen’s articles for that subject back when I was more into Conspiracy Theory.
Actually, Pat’s worst error in TNWO was his accepting as genuine the fake Albert Pike quote about Lucifer being God in Scottish-Rite Freemasonry.
- I have sworn to promote Melanson’s master-work on the Illuminati in the interest of truth-promoting & myth-busting. I have no connection with him or the book whatsoever.
Actually, this is not an accurate statement of Christian doctrine – more specifically, it’s not accurate because it suggests that there is monolithic Christian doctrine on the point. The question of “If there is a benevolent God, why do horrific things happen?” is obviously not a new one, since horrific things have happened with depressing regularity before this earthquake.
I know you love taking potshots at religious beliefs, and the idiots that hold those beliefs, and when someone like Pat Robertson says something like this, it’s hard to not deny you that pleasure.
But you might want to remember that of the many people that were helping make Haiti a slightly better place three days ago, before the drama of the moment, many of them were faith-based and motivated by a desire to follow what they saw as the guidance of that same imaginary friend that you so mockingly dismiss.
If you have any serious interest in the actual answers that various Christians will give to the “Why bad things happen under the auspices of a supposedly benevolent God,” open a GQ or GD thread and I’ll happily answer. For the purposes of this thread, I’ll merely suggest, with un-Pit-like calm, that your statement is based on a lack of knowledge.
Heck, even Robertson has people and supplies moving in to help in Haiti, and I will say that it may be worth a later GD as to what, if anything, exactly happened at Bois Caiman in 1791 & what after-effects it may have had.
I was listening to the Christian radio network K-LOVE when one of the on-staff pastors was asked about “the pact with the devil” because they had so many phone calls & e-mails asking about it. He said that whatever did or didn’t happen 200 years ago, people were suffering now & Jesus was commanding us to help however we could. Amen, brother.
And yeah, I’ve made a couple of donations to SDMB-approved groups already.
Shout out to all my lazy charity givers. You can donate 10 dollars to the cause by texting the word HAITI to 90999. It’s legit, don’t worry.
North Korea and South Korea are the same location? That’ll come as quite a big shock to me, along with almost 50 million others who live in a geographically different area than North Koreans do! And I wouldn’t be surprised all that much either if there’s a bit of geological difference between the Dominican Republic and Haiti.
Definitely not interested in a debate about anyone’s imaginary friend.
It’s legit, and I did it yesterday. However, beware if you don’t have a text package on your phone plan; you will receive 4 followup texts asking you to confirm your donation, thanking you, asking you if you want to receive further information about relief activities, etc. If you don’t want to go that route, there’s always the International Committee of the Red Cross website.
You’re not heartless (as that implies a vestige of humanity). You’re a monster.
Yup.
Actually they’re not sitting on fertile ground. Haiti has a big problem with deforestation, which causes the topsoil to be washed away and severely reduces the productivity of the land, eventually leading to desertification. One can argue about whose fault the deforestation is, but it’s not like the people living there now could just start having lush gardens if they wanted to.
Here’s a very informative article about Haitian history from The London Times. In a nutshell: Haiti may have gotten free from colonialism in 1804, but they were paying France humongous war reparations* till 1949. They didn’t save their money like those thrifty Dominicans because there was a hole at the bottom of their piggy bank.
- The nerve of those noirs, wanting to be free. Quel fromage! Or something.
Is it just me, or does Pat Robertson always look like he’s constipated when he’s praying? His son gets that same look on his face, too.
[sub]Oh, and he blamed the wrong Napoleon. It was Napoleon I, not Napoleon III. Dumbass.[/sub]
I dunno about Fox, but Rush has waded in.
El Rushbag has already seized the opportunity to take a swipe at Bill Clinton, saying that he doesn’t belong in Haiti because it’s impossible to find a prostitute who doesn’t have AIDS.
:mad: That is a scurrilous libel on the honour of Haitian prostitutes!