I assume indecent adult film topics are frowned upon here, but I would think this one is allowed- if not, please close and accept my sincere apology- it is not my intent to turn this board into a cesspool of filth.
About five to ten years ago there was a thing with studio (vs. amateur) scenes (not sure if one or all studios), where before a scene involving two adult females that were purportedly biological mother and daughter, before said scene both performers would appear on the set, state their screen (as opposed to legal) names, and state they are not really mother and daughter, they are just actors portraying mother and daughter.
Seems this was pro forma for a short time, then it went away for good. My question is- what would be the point of this? A statement like this I assume has no legal standing, especially if you are not stating your legal names? Not to mention if some legal type thought they really were related and tried to arrest them, the mere presence of the disclaimer would not preclude this. So what would be the point of the statement, other than to ruin it for those viewers who really want to believe the illusion?
Not even going into the what if, if that one in a billion myth happened, and unbeknownst to them, via a long ago adoption, they really were related?
The rare non-adult films that shows such a relationship do not include disclaimers, but of course do not depict certain acts graphically.
Conversely, boldly stating the disclaimer may reverse some squick factor, and make it and future productions more palatable to some people. Maybe its their occasional “good deed” for the industry, or maybe as some sort of protest. Or maybe, someone involved in the production demands the disclaimer, or they won’t bankroll the production.
There’s lots of this sort of thing. One of the mainstream companies likes to have the actress discuss what the next production means to her intellectually – even for very extreme porn, either before or afterward with her a bathrobe. Even infamous producers, like James Deen or Max Hardcore can find some friend/co-star to give a glowing testimonial, even though, as you noted, this sort of thing doesn’t really protect them from other accusations.
Its so ubiquitous however, seems odd to not do it, once and awhile. Just as an inside joke.
individual scene from toob site, not complete dvd, not complete from a studio site- but the disclaimer has same clothes, hairdo, etc. clearly done right before or after scene by scene participants.
Several years ago we had an AMA from a porn producer or director or some such. I recall it being an absolutely fascinating conversation. One of the things I remember him saying was that some directors would use such disclaimers to avoid accusations that certain scenes (rapes were one I seem to recall him mentioning) were the real thing, thus (hopefully) avoiding lawsuits.
I would assume a disclaimer that a seemingly incestuous interaction is just staged fantasy and not the real thing has a similar purpose: to avoid the accusation that the producer has crossed a legal line.
Right, not only do the up-loaders chop the disclaimer off they often cut off the beginning of scenes that include title and the names of the participants. AIUI, to make those scenes harder to find by their owners so they don’t get taken down as quickly.
If you search with something like NudeVista and sort by duration you’ll often see the same video with ever so slightly different run times.
With a rape fantasy or other rough sex, I can see the disclaimer (I agree to be in this very rough sex scene, I agree to participate in the following sex acts, etc.) to absolve you from the possible crime of sexual assault, since the act is on video, and could in theory cause someone problems from a disgruntled participant without a disclaimer, contract. etc.
However two adult females having rather tame sex under the guise of incest, I dont see the point of the disclaimer. Its like if one of them added, oh btw, my husband was recently killed, and I am not guilty. That statement would hold no bearing at all with the persons investigating the murder.
IOW, if some not bright person saw the scene without the disclaimer, and called police that they have proof incest has taken place and submits the video to someone in law interested in pursuing the case, would them seeing the disclaimer end the investigation, as it would with a similar investigation of the rape scene? If you think someone has committed a crime, would a video of them simply denying it end the investigation? I dont think so, so dont see the point, was the base question.
Like if John Wick 3 had a disclaimer, it looks like 100 people got killed in this film, but no one really did?
if it is for legal purposes, what would this type disclaimer be called for the mom/daughter- an admission of innocence? which isnt really of any value? Some of these the age difference of the two would prevent such a relationship, as well:)
Obscenity laws are seldom used any more in most parts of the USA. Due to the inherent conflict with free speech rights, court requirements have made them hard cases to win, or (cynically) most prosecutors don’t see winning such cases as gaining much votes for their re-election.
But incest laws are more politically supported, and safe from challenges on free speech grounds. So some prosecutor could go after this film not for obscenity, but for mother-daughter incest. By including that disclaimer, the film producer is safe from that charge, also.
For what it’s worth, no, they’re not. You probably don’t want to post outright porn, there’s a two-click rule to NSFW sites, and make sure that the discussion doesn’t spill over into misogyny, but there aren’t terribly many (legal) topics here that are frowned upon.
We frown on threads themselves that are indecent. If a thread consists of nothing but sexual fantasies, we’ll usually shut it down. But a decent thread about an indecent topic (like this one) is no problem.
