Non-urban dopers, defend yourselves!

I suppose there’s no way I can write about being in a midwest-ish area and simultaneouly poke fun at the size of peoples’ belt buckles AND defend their way of life. So I’ll just have to do the latter. I don’t ordinarily mind a little good natured ribbing about being a “hayseed” but I’ll stick to the subject at hand.

I was recently shipped off to Ohio (from Boston) to do some work. And I don’t mean Cleveland or Columbus or Cincinatti. I’m in Wilmington, Ohio. I don’t know what the population of Wilmington is, but it looks a lot like the farm country in Illinois where I grew up. Except for much bigger belt buckles and a bit of a Southern drawl.

So every person who found out I was coming to Ohio got this horrified look on their faces and proclaimed “What ARE you going to DO out there?” as if I was being sent to the south pole. Well, I figured there might be fewer art museums here in Wilmington, and maybe less traffic, but I thought I’d do what I do every night after work…knit, read, shop…you know: entertain myself like an adult.

Then I ran into someone else at work in Ohio from the Boston office who proceeded to tell me how HORRIBLE it was here and how he didn’t have anything to do. He is bored, bored, BORED and he has to drive all the way to Cincinatti just to find something decent to eat. And how come I’m not going completely CRAZY by now?

I asked him, “What do you usually do in the evening after work?”

“Oh,” he answered, “I watch tv and have a beer with the neighbor.”

Which is interesting, because from the way he was talking, I thought he was going to tell me that he was born and raised on the dance floor in a nightclub. I figured he spent the evenings and weekends being chased from one gallery opening to the next by a herd of crazed Paparazzi. In fact, the way everyone looked at me in horror at the thought of being in a rural area, I thought I was the only person who didn’t go directly to the theater district when I got off of work every evening, with a glass of champagne in one hand and a mobile phone in the other for quick updates on what there is to do NEXT. Wearing an evening gown, of course.

No, us “city people” do pretty much the same thing as rural people: we sit around in our jeans and relax and prepare for the next work day. When we do take advantages of the arts and what-have-you (which I admit, I do fairly frequently) we still usually have to drive a ways to get there. And most of us don’t really take advantage of those luxuries very often anyway because of time constraints and preferences for other forms of entertainment that can be found anywhere.

Just for the record, there are a couple of GREAT places to check out antiques in Wilmington and two enormous outlet malls nearby. There is a movie theater, a bowling alley, and a great nature preserve. There are also about two dozen restaurants in addition to the standard chain and fast food places. And that guy who doesn’t know how to entertain himself, even though he’s well into his 50s? He lives 50 miles from Boston anyway.

L

I agree with you 100%. I live in Boston too and I used to work 1 week a month in a call center in New Paris, OH/Richmond, IN. I loved it while my co-workers always bitched about going. Two people threatened to quit unless they never had to travel there again. I thought it was a nice change of pace. The people were much friendlier and there wasn’t much traffic. I went out to eat, hung out at the truck stop next to the hotel, went to some local bars. If I didn’t feel like any of that, I went back to the hotel and sat in the hot tub and read. People pay good money to do those types of things and I got paid to do it.

The nature preserve isn’t so good. It rains there.

(And Dayton is closer than Cincinnati. If you can do without all the glitz.)

I think many people, while perhaps intellectually knowing different, on the surface perceive Ohio to be a smallish state. The facts are at odds with that perception. Ohio ranks as the 7th most populous state (out of 51 when including the District of Columbia) and has for quite some time with more than 11 million people. Also, according to my 2000 World Almanac, of the 75 most populous cities in the U.S., five are Ohio (Columbus-15th, Cleveland-28th,Cincinnati-51st, Toledo-53rd & Akron-74th). Only CA & TX have more.

I think I went to Dayton. But I don’t know because I was lost. I found this killer Scrap Booking store that was ENORMOUS.

I flew into Cincinnati and I didn’t notice much glitz. I’m pretty much a glitz-free kinda gal, so I can check out Dayton a little more.

I’m staying in a Ramada that has a swimming pool. Plus, I can use as many towels as I want and someone makes my bed every day. It’s like being on vacation, just like Shagnasty said!

I miss my puppy. Are there any animal things I can do around here?

L

I think I went to Dayton. But I don’t know because I was lost. I found this killer Scrap Booking store that was ENORMOUS.

I flew into Cincinnati and I didn’t notice much glitz. I’m pretty much a glitz-free kinda gal, so I can check out Dayton a little more.

I’m staying in a Ramada that has a swimming pool. Plus, I can use as many towels as I want and someone makes my bed every day. It’s like being on vacation, just like Shagnasty said!

I miss my puppy. Are there any animal things I can do around here?

L

Wow, I had no idea!! I thought people were just freaked out by the fact that there were farms around here.

The other odd thing to note is that Boston is NOT that big of a city. Boston is a great place, I enjoy it very much. But I admit to being mystified about exactly WHAT it is people miss when they get sent from Boston to someplace more rural for a short while. The hideous accent? Rotaries? The subtle and charming beauty of the Big Dig?

The only semi-sensible argument I can come up with is that people like having their “arts and cultural” centers close at hand. But I bet if you asked 100 city dwellers when the last time they engaged in any “arts” type behavior, they probably couldn’t even remember. People who do that type of stuff do it no matter where they live…even if they have to drive to Columbus. Or wherever.

L

Well, here in Northern Metro Detroit, there is Fork-all to do.

No museums. (The decent ones are in DTW.)
No Shows. ( Again, DTW)
No Opera ( really, a limited audience.)
No symphony ( see above)
Semi-decent restraunts. (none in my hick area, but thts ok.)
A great car show-dream cruise every August. (V.cool, btw)

But, the shopping malls, oye, they are to die for.

That, I’ve decided, is the thing to do after living here my whole life. Shop and talk about either how the weather sucks or the Lions suck.

When you never have any of the above, you don’t know what you are missing.

Not that we talk about in polite company.

I live in the middle of nowhere, but thanks to good roads and lax traffic enforcement, I can be in any one of several 24 hour entertainment meccas in just a few minutes.

Its getting back home afterward that is the pain in the ass, and I’ve slept in the back seat of the truck more than once.

Yeah, I got some kind of information like that from a trucker in the hotel lobby last night too. Ewwwwwwwww!

But don’t you have a petting zoo or horseback riding or something? I mean, a naked petting zoo is fine, but it’s not exactly what I was aiming for.

I moved from a small town in upstate New York to a small city in northeastern Texas. The place I live now has a population of over 70,000; my hometown had a population of 1,500. Yet when I’d tell the New Yorkers I was moving to Texas, they’d get all aghast. “What are you going to DO down there?” “You’re going to live in the middle of nowhere!” “How will you stand it?”

I’d just look around at the dairy farms and the empty woodlands and the road that led to the nearest grocery store 20 miles away, and think “What, exactly, do they think I’m going to miss?”

To get back to the OP, I’m not sure that what city people and rural people consider fun is at all the same thing.

I mean, I live pretty centrally in rural California. I can get over to San Francisco or Sacramento in a couple of hours, Fresno in less. But what would I do there? Yes, there’s restaurants and museums and shopping, but that’s not what floats my boat. It’s nice once in a while, but it’s sure not what I live for. OK, a restaurant choice that stays open past 8 would be nice once in a while, I’ll give you that. Shopping? I don’t much like crowds, so I do most of it on the internet anyway.

I guess we make our own fun, at least in my family. We’ve got a bunch of horses and roping cattle, and at least four nights a week (in the summer), we’re roping at home. And no matter what else we do, we’ve got to feed the critters twice a day. And my boyfriend and his son go to ropings or rodeos almost any spring or summer weekend. I do a lot of photography and horse warming at those, and that eats a lot of time.

During the week in the winter, I guess we just sit around same as y’all do, but that’s after working past dark and feeding and cooking dinner and homework for the little guys and baths and whatnot. No free time to worry about there! All fall, I’m consumed with hunting, and spring and summer, I spend a lot of time practicing with my bow. And then there’s the dogs to raise and train - I’ve got four puppies left from the last litter, and if they don’t sell soon, I’ll start 'em on cattle myself. (Want one? working homes only - Border Collies get bored easily.)

City people seem to have a lot of things that they want to do, and that’s very nice for them. Personally, I would be bored silly in a city, and it doesn’t matter which one or how many cultural events you can find there. My culture’s just a little more homegrown. Kind of like yogurt, and often smellier. But it’s my life, and I like it.

Population (year 2000): 11,921

Population (year 2000): 11,921

My aunt’s family lives in Wilmington. it used to seem very very rural 20 years ago when we’d visit them. The last time I was there (4 years ago) I was suprised by how developed the area has become. Also, with Airborne Express, there are probably more plane flights per capita daily than any other city in the US (pre-DHL merger at least)

I live on 6 acres out in the hills. I’m close enough to commute to the city for work but far enough away to avoid all of the crap that goes with it. I’ve never really lived in a large city but since I don’t deal well with crowds I guess it is just as well. In any case, sitting outside in the evening, listening to the toads and the birds, being able to see the stars, never locking the door, having trees and rocks to climb, a barn for my projects…I can’t ever see myself leaving.

BTW bowert, where are you located? I think that we may be close by. Email me if you don’t want to post it.

I partly buy that. But then again, isn’t fun…well…FUN? I mean, let’s say you’re into going to the opera every weekend. Does that mean that you can’t have fun, say, making your own photographic chronicle of a small town? Can’t adults generally entertain themselves when they’re taken temporarily away from things they consider “the usual?” And aren’t they aware that what they consider “usual” isn’t what EVERYONE considers the norm?

I also contend that people do mainly the same thing anyway. When I question the people who are aghast at the thought of being away from their local entertainment center about what they do for fun, they claim to do the same things YOU do: Take care of their families and pets. Unless they’re in college or otherwise under 25, in which case, they study, play in garage bands, and deal with their families and pets.

I’m not saying that people don’t develop different notions of what constitutes entertainment due to what’s available. I just think that a) people can adjust to that availability if they’re not…well…STUPID about it, and b) people who make a big deal out of how URBAN they are as if that is a character asset are kind of misguided, since they don’t generally behave any different than your average Wilmingtonite. They only like to think they do for some odd reason.

It’s the food, the booze and the bookstores. That’s what makes urban living so different from rural living in my book, and being able to operate my life in public after 8 or 9pm.

Please don’t make me go to a rural area, please please please!

I agree with your sentiment. When I get in such an extremely different environment (such as a city) though, I tend to be more uncomfortable. When I settle down, sure, I find things to do.

And I quite agree that basic, everyday entertainment is probably pretty similar for a lot of people of all different backgrounds.

I can sympathize with the horror more from a stranger in a strange land point of view. I’m more likely to find the things that I’m comfortable with and therefore like to do if I’m plopped down in a similar environment than a different one. Although with a native guide, I’m sure I’d have a blast no matter where. I think that I could adjust, but I live in the situtaion I do because I chose it. This is what makes me happy, and I gravitated towards it from a much more urban upbringing.

I agree that people who make a huge deal about it, in either way, are kind of silly. But then, I feel extra rednecky when I’m in a city and uncomfortable, and I imagine that the very urban people are just as alienated by different settings.

And yeah, I think we all like some variant of drink beer - eat pizza with buddies or blob out and watch TV some of the times. I’m not arguing with you here; I just personally illustrate your city people being very urban from the opposite perspective.