what’s pathetic are the people who demanded they apologize in the first place.
oh, physician heal thyself. Apparently demanding an apology for mixing up two movie titles isn’t “pathetically fragile.”
Because the Twitter warriors and tone police haven’t moved on. They’re licking their chops for the next person they can shred and parade before the world.
and who, exactly, am I supposed to apologize to and for what? Who are you to expect me to? god, you’re making my point for me so thoroughly I almost think I’m being whooshed.
You’re being dishonest. You deliberately didn’t comment on the third link Slacker presented. In that story, a guy who raised a million dollars for charity lost a contract with Busch because a reporter dug up some racist tweets he made eight years ago, when he was sixteen.
It’s okay. We all screw up from time to time. Just apologise for it and we’ll move on.
Who demanded an apology from Keaton? All I saw was some gentle mockery.
As for Murray, I don’t know about you, but I would certainly want to apologize for anything hateful that I said, even if it was in the past. Good for Murray for recognizing this and apologizing. It reflects well on him.
Ha! Keaton and Murray are “shredded”? That’s funny, they seem to be doing fine too me. Did they reach out to you and Maher to defend them, or did y’all just decide on your own to “white knight” them?
As for you, who’s asked you to apologize? Do you suddenly feel attacked? If so, maybe the problem is inside you. All I’ve done is disagreed with you, maybe with some gentle mockery as well. Disagreeing isn’t going to hurt you. Criticism isn’t going to hurt you. Even a little gentle mockery isn’t going to hurt you. Maybe you could even learn something!
So what? He lost a PR contract. He’s obviously very skilled at raising money - he’ll be fine. PR is all about public image - of course companies are going to want someone squeaky clean for their PR side!
I don’t know if Keaton and Murray are good examples, but people get shredded on Twitter over nothing all the time. It’s a daily occurrence. A billion examples available on request.
Who will speak for wealthy and successful people who occasionally make mistakes and are criticized for them, and then they apologize gracefully and everyone moves on?
Apparently, Maher and a few posters in this thread, even though none of these folks asked them to. Seems kind of like they appointed themselves as, say, knights to defend them?
I’m not any sort of hard-core Maher fan; the ONLY times I’ve ever watched him has been when YouTube recommended one of his clips to me. But, in response to this thread, I clicked on the complete show from which Slacker’s excerpt came.
I found the entire show very intelligent. Salman Rushdie discusses his latest book (“Quichotte sets off on a picaresque quest across America … gallantly braving the tragicomic perils of an age where ‘Anything-Can-Happen’” — I’m ordering the book). In the panel discussion, Noah Rothman echoes my concern that the impeachment proceedings will ultimately benefit Trump. Linette Lopez sees Warren as a big winner of recent developments. Barney Frank agrees with Rothman that impeachment will only hurt the Democrats; he opposed it before but now finds it a “moral imperative” despite political costs. Gina McCarthy, the former head of the EPA, appeared and there was interesting discussion of climate change. Rothman pushed back — this panel is more than just an echo chamber — and discussion got quite vehement.
(Rothman was attacked until he resorted to gibberish — “I don’t deny we have dynamic climate because the climate is dynamic.”)
I may start watching Maher regularly! The discussion was more intelligent and balanced than anything I’ve seen elsewhere, especially at SDMB. Skip the last 6 minutes of the 55 minute show if you don’t find Maher hilarious, but watch the 8-minute “Overtime” segment.
Is Arquette’s the only statement of this type? I vaguely recall similar statements, especially if we broaden the net to include all liberals influential on social media, not just “celebrities.”
I like the discussions on Maher’s show, and I was a regular watcher of his shows since the 90s until just the last few months. I stopped watching because I found Maher so obnoxious that I didn’t enjoy it any more, even if I still usually liked the discussion parts.
As for Arquette and her dumb statement, if a handful of other random people have said similarly silly things, that doesn’t mean anything other than sometimes people say silly things in the internet.
“He’ll be fine” isn’t the right thing to say when you (or the thing you’re brushing under the carpet) have hurt someone.
You’ve also missed the point of the example. Busch’s actions are irrelevant. They did what they had to do. The point is they wouldn’t have had to do anything if some dickhead hadn’t published his garbage childhood tweets for internet points. That behaviour is toxic and, as the example showed, hurtful. He clearly isn’t the same person anymore. The tweets obviously don’t reflect on his character. So there was no reason to publish them. But they did. Now, he’s no longer the hero who raised a million dollars for a children’s hospital. He’s just another Milkshake Duck
That’s not fair. You know it’s not fair, and that’s why you didn’t tackle the example, and that’s why you were being dishonest.
But it’s okay. Nobody’s perfect. Just apologise and we can move on.
Maher says dumb things. But he’s not wrong about this particular hobbyhorse of his.
The progressive apology circus has turned into something that is worth ridicule. It’s no longer, “Hey, sorry 'bout that”. It’s, how quickly and publicly can I fall on my sword, because a bunch of people on social media are triggered and I must ensure they don’t turn on me and I lose my ‘woke progressivel’ status in the eyes of my fan base, present and future.
It’s turned into the “woke” Olympics. Who can apologize faster, higher, stronger.
I accept that this is the narrative of Maher (and Tucker Carlson), but I don’t accept that this more than a tiny and mostly insignificant thing that’s occurring. There’s much much more whining about this than actually good and decent people having their lives ruined.
If you want to call him “just another milkshake duck”, that’s your prerogative. I’ll see him as a guy who said some really dumb things in the past, but then did some great things. You know, he’s a flawed person. Hopefully he’s learned from his mistakes and will continue to do good things for others.
It is not the most pressing and urgent issue of our time. It should not keep us up at night. But it’s a real thing, IMO. He’s simply commenting on it because it gets under his skin, because many of his show biz friends are directly affected by it, because he’s been on the receiving end on one or two occasions, and, because he has the forum in which to express it.
The only thing that was undone was he lost his year’s worth of bud. The charity got their money, Bud got their positive exposure.
Yes, we should teach our children that what you put out on social media is there forever. This time the kid lost beer, next time it might be an actual job.
Guess what, in the real world if you’re an ass and say stupid things, sometimes that will bite you in the ass. The people in this thread who are out of touch with reality don’t include iiandyiiii.