Not so inevitable movie plots?

Obviously not. You have found something wrong with almost every response.

Would you like to meet my ex-wife?

Are you my ex-wife?

Oh come on. Obviously there aren’t any historically accurate movies, unless there was live footage of an event that only lasted about 2 hours. Did you read the part about the ‘big picture’ in the OP?

Of course it’s almost as much fun to mess with him as it is with Skald.

In an alternate history, he is.

Did you see where I agreed that Inglorious Basterds fits the bill?

Look-If I go to a shoe store and request a pair of red shoes, and the clerks bring me everything but a pair of red shoes, their bitching about how I just can’t be satisfied gets them no sympathy from me. If you are having problems understanding the OP, just let me know and I’ll try to reword it for you, o.k.?

True dat…but it tends to guide those who are trying to honestly participate down the wrong path. But if that’s what it takes to get your giggles on, well…

Well… it came as a complete shock to this movie viewer to discover that the German Enigma code machine was captured by Americans. :stuck_out_tongue:

Now that’s what I’m talking about. And wasn’t there a submarine movie recently that stuck heroic Americans into the plot where they didn’t exist in real life?

It’s not historical, really, but I was amazed at Troy, which killed off charavcters from The Iliad who were supposed to have lived. Watching that movie when you’re familiar with the myth, even ignoring the missing gods, is a real experience.

A submarine movie other than U-571? I don’t know – although there seem to have been a few WWII movies where US troops have been stuck in where they weren’t historically (or at least over-represented).

It’s fine to a point (IMHO), have to appeal to the audience and all that… but U-571 was the first thing I though of on reading your OP – the real first Enigma machine was captured by the British 6 months before the US joined the war, so having a US crew do it seems to be taking more than a bit of an historical liberty. :slight_smile:

Planet of the Apes isn’t an (intentional) example of alternate history at all. It’s an example of science fiction set in the future being overtaken by the passage of time so that the future it predicted never happened. Ditto for Star Trek (I don’t recall the Eugenics Wars, do you?).

Well, The Bridge on the River Kwai takes a number of liberties, the presence of the American played by William Holden being a relatively minor one.

The word is “pedantry”.

/pedant

How pedantish of you.

So what? Chill out.

There were no elves at Helm’s Deep…

Not to be pedantic, but “pedanticism” is legit the way it was used in that post.

Michner’s novel Space, and the miniseries made from it, posit a last Apollo mission to the moon. No problem there, adding a fictional mission similar to the real missions is a perfectly legitimate exercise of historical fiction.

Oh, by the way, the astronauts die on the Moon.

WHAT???

I’m sorry, but that goes waaaay beyond the boundaries of historical fiction. Astronauts dying on a Moon mission is a HUGE change in history. Had it happened, it would have had a 9/11-scale impact. It is possible that such a thing would have revitalized the space program, leading to permanent settlements. It is possible that it would have totally killed the space program, leading to drastically reduced technological spin-offs (no iPods!). Either way, introducing an event of this scale in historical fiction is breaking all the rules.

And, aside from the literary violation, I wonder how many people are convinced that we lost astronauts in space, due to watching the miniseries…

I was going to say not many…but then I remembered all the doofi that thought Capricorn One was a docu-drama.

A pedant would know that the plural of “doofus” is “doofusi.”

It’s actually “doofodes”.