Not the smartest thing I did, but I succeeded. Kids, don’t try this at home

I took acid twice, and I both times I was disappointed that I didn’t have visual hallucinations, which is what I was really looking forward to. Altered perception of space and time, yes, but no colors, no flying snakes or whatever.

The main thing I disliked about acid was that it went on Too. Damn. Long. After about four or five hours, I felt, Okay, that was fun, but I’ve had enough. No such luck. This is going to last twelve hours, like it or not. And I don’t know about you, but I couldn’t sleep on acid. Both times I was up for more that 24 hours straight, and hung over the next day. I didnt have a bad trip either time, but neither was the whole experience so wonderful that I ever felt like doing it again.

BTW, it seems to me that, based on most of the stories here, including my own above, the word “succeeded” in the title really should be “survived.”

Pro tip: Nobody calls their dealer their dealer anymore. The current term is “guy” or “plug”.

Cite: ask your grandkids

“Have you ever transcended space and time?”
“Yes. No. Uh, time, not space. …No, I don’t know what you’re talking about.”

(I Heart Huckabees)

I call mine my “contractor.”

I remember reading an article about an MK Ultra experiment the CIA did on one of their prisoners. They gave a him a drawing pad and had him draw one of the agents. They gave him a dose of LSD and had him draw again. The new drawing was considerably more abstract. They repeated the dosage and recorded his artwork, each more surreal than the last.

I was invited to a mushroom party, so I took my drawing pad with me. The hosts had a Godzilla statue, so I drew it. After the first drawing, I took some shrooms and drew a second one. Godzilla looked light and airy, like he was floating in the clouds. After subsequent doses, I saw an alien ant colony crawling on Godzilla, so I tried to draw that. Subsequently, I started ripping pages off the pad and redrawing, because I noticed how the ants had formed an advanced society and constructed skyscrapers on Godzilla. Eventually, the host came up to me and asked me if was all right. I thought he wasn’t actually in the room and ignored him.

I scanned all those drawings, but I can’t find them. Just as well. They didn’t look nearly as cool when I sobered up.

I believe you were just fine, because most people aren’t monsters. Glad you didn’t find a monster though.

It’s kind of like wondering why we are willing to ask some stranger in the airport lounge to watch our computer while we go to the bathroom–what makes that stranger any better than all of the others milling about that we fear will steal our stuff?

It all comes down to this: if someone comes to you, there is a strong possibility they are up to no good and have targeted you; if you come up to some random person (who doesn’t appear crazy or scary), you will most likely stumble across a good one.

ETA: Mom was right to freak out though!

Here’s my story of young men in cars being stupid and, thankfully, surviving without nary a scratch.

Back in 1983 when I was 22 and my brother was 20, we did an epic road trip across the USA in my small 1979 Fiat X1/9: it was from San Francisco to Colorado Springs to Latham NY to West Hartford CT to Washington DC to Key West FL to Santa Barbara CA and back home to San Francisco. 11,500 miles over 5 weeks. Truly epic!

That little Fiat X1/9 was a fun and beautiful sports car. See the first picture in the imgur link below. And it was dependable and reliable, a solid runner.

We left on 11 April 1983 and the weather over Donner Pass was clear, albeit still cold. But once we entered Colorado snow started falling heavily. Heading into Denver the snow had built up on the roads, the radio was warning people to stay home if they don’t have to go out, and several cars had wiped out. But we passed them and kept on truckin’ through.

I grew up in the northeast and fortunately learned how to drive in snow and ice. And, a nice surprise that I didn’t realize until then was that little car was actually designed well to drive in snow, with its mid-mounted engine and it being rear wheel drive, the engine weight was over the drive wheels and it handled the deep snow really well. When I say deep snow, it was about 4-6” — deep for a tiny X1/9, that is. Much deeper and we’d have had to stop.

The late spring snow storm was a bad one and it followed us across the USA as we drove eastward. We visited our brother at the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs, and it was cold, windy, and wintry there.

Leaving USAFA and heading to Chicago next, we decided to drive through the night and see if we could outrun the storm. Because of the storm, on that overnight run we ended up off the interstate, off the road completely, and in the median twice. For the entire trip it would be three times.

The first time that we wiped out was when were on I-76 northeast of Denver. My brother was driving and was passing a semi truck and trailer that was in the right lane. We were in the snowier left lane, and the car was getting squirrelly. Just as we were passing, the truck jackknifed right next to us. The cab of the truck was pointed right at us, sideways and facing directly at us, as it slid down the interstate. A sobering sight indeed, especially in a small and low car like we had — its massive grill and headlights were pointed right at me in the right seat. My brother expertly maneuvered the car onto the median on our left, he kept his speed up and therefore maintained momentum while we were in the snow (about 6”, on the grass), and then he steered us back onto the interstate as if nothing happened. The truck, in the meantime, ended up in the snow on the right side of the road, stopped, while we kept on truckin’ on.

No harm, no foul, and we were fine. Luckily! No damage to the car with that off-roading stretch of maybe 200-300 yards.

The second time we ended up off of the interstate and onto the snowy median was early the next morning, in eastern Nebraska, after driving through the night on really treacherous snow and ice and crosswinds and snow drifts formed across the interstate. Almost nobody else was on I-80 that night, and all night long on the radio they kept telling people to stay home, stay off the roads, and how unsafe it was to drive.

But we were young and dumb and full of bravado and not full of wisdom. I drove all night long across Nebraska and the car was frequently squirrelly as it wanted to slide sideways. I kept applying correction and we trucked onward. And I was driving WAAAAAY TOO FAST! In the days of the double nickel (55 mph) I was cruising at 60-70 in the bad weather. Very, very dumb! When you’re that young and full of machismo, you don’t think you’re going to die. That was us.

That night across Nebraska, some of the worst experiences was exiting to get gas. That’s because, while what little traffic there was on the interstate kept the right lane moderately clear of heavy snow buildup, that wasn’t true of the exit ramps. I still remember taking the exits and plowing through deep, unplowed snow, and then spotting the gas station. But the station’s parking lot was not plowed and it was covered by deep and pristine snowfall. Fortunately the temperature was cold, so the snow was light and powdery instead of heavy and slushy.

From the street, I’d stop and aim my car at the gas pumps. And then I’d gun it and keep the power on while going through the deep, pristine, powdery snow. Gotta keep your momentum up! The trick also included being able to stop at the pumps instead of flying right past them, or worse, right into them. Fortunately, beneath the awnings above the pumps there was clear pavement instead of fallen snow so I could stop. I just had to get to the pumps and not be stuck in the deep-ish snow surrounding them. We managed to do it well and without incident, twice that night.

Anyway, I drove through the night and as the sun started to rise the next morning there were more cars on the road with us. And I kept passing them on the icy road. In eastern Nebraska near the exit for York NE and highway NE-93B (grid 40.821819, -97.462402), we caught a sudden and strong gust of crosswind. It blew the car sideways on the icy road and at that moment Isaac Newton and his laws of momentum and energy and inertia were in control of the car. Not me. Traveling at 70mph we were spinning sideways and ended up off the road and onto the median. I can still see the plowed snow flying sideways over the front hood of the car as we slid sideways, spinning. I waited for us to hit an irrigation ditch or some concrete structure but fortunately that never came. We eventually skidded to a stop in the median.

The snow had been deep and powdery soft. It was about a foot deep. While we were spinning sideways it felt like the hand of God was gently holding the car and us until we stopped. The small and low X1/9 never threatened to roll over, thank God. We had been spinning flat in the powder snow.

When we came to a stop we got out of the car to assess any damage. Fortunately there was none. Even the plastic air dam on the front lower was in place. As we assessed, standing in the deep snow, some of the cars and trucks we had recently passed drove by, about 25 yards from us. One trucker even waved as if to say, You stupid, dumb kids, you are very lucky! A bit embarrassing.

To get back onto the highway I pointed the car at an acute angle with the eastbound direction, gained some momentum, climbed the little berm that the road surface was on, and we popped right back onto the road surface.

And then I proceeded to drive way too fast again, and passed those same cars and trucks.

We were west of Lincoln NE and, because we were curious about the road surface, at one point we pulled over and stopped on the shoulder and got out. The highway was empty then. No traffic. We walked onto the road surface and found everything, everything, was covered in ice! We’d been driving on a solid sheet of ice!

Incredible.

We wiped out and ended up off the road a third and final time a couple of days later while in Upstate New York on the NY Thruway between Rochester and Syracuse. There the snow was wet and slushy and, again while passing in the left lane, the heavy slush pulled the car to the left and we ended up in the median. Again.

In the end as we drove eastward, we ended up following the storm and being in it for its travel across the USA.

Here are the only surviving pictures from that trip. In the first picture, that’s the day we left and we’re in front of our parents’ house in San Francisco. I’m on the right and my brother on the left. That was my first car, I bought it new with my Marine Corps pay, and I absolutely loved that car!

In the snow picture, with me and the car of the road, that was the third (and, thankfully, final) time we ended up off of the freeway due to snow and ice on the eastbound leg. That was in Upstate New York on the NY Thruway between Rochester and Syracuse.

Pictures —

Here are some headlines from that freak storm that hit late in the spring of 1983.

● Spring storm buries Midwest — Spring storm buries Midwest - UPI Archives
● Spring storms pounded the Midwest and Northeast Sunday, downing… — Spring storms pounded the Midwest and Northeast Sunday, downing... - UPI Archives
● A memory we talk about every spring, the State Street river of 1983 — https://www.abc4.com/news/wirth/a-memory-we-talk-about-every-spring-the-state-street-river-of-1983/amp

*Blew shit up with M-80 firecrackers when they were legal: check.
*Used a homemade slingshot to launch lit cherry bomb firecrackers when they were legal: check.
*Made a makeshift gun out of a piece of pipe: plug one end, drop a lit firecracker in, followed by a rock, aim it at someone or something and BANG! Check.
*Parked my motor scooter next to the railroad tracks and climbed out on the underpinnings of the trestle. Yes, a train hit the scoot and knocked it flying. Also almost fell from under the trestle. Check.
*Climbed around in the deteriorated, falling down buildings of a defunct gold mine in Alaska, heedless of roof beams over our heads. Check.

These are things that ended well. There were others that didn’t.

I’ve been more careful as an adult. Working in construction teaches you that most stupid mistakes are unforgiving.

That was part of my “Drugs aren’t all that amazing” talk to my kids, with gems like:

Look, you can drop acid and watch the world melt into fluorescent ponds of play-doh… or you can exercise your imagination to where you can do that any time you want to. And straighten right up when you’ve had enough, unlike 'shrooms.
Any time I’m bored standing in line, I just watch the giant dinosaurs crushing the building, while the alien armada tries to stop them.

And if you want to do crazy, life-threatening stuff, you don’t need someone to hold your beer. I’ve done so many risky things that I really shouldn’t be here with my extremities and brain intact. But I just barely saved myself, partly because I was a sober idiot.

In college, a friend’s family had a vacation home on a river. The house was rectangular with a deck around all four sides and on stilts. There were times of the year the house was only accessible by canoe/boat. A dozen or so of us spent Fourth of July weekend there. Much heavy partying ensued all week-end but the fireworks were out of control. We spent Friday and Saturday shooting/throwing all kinds of fireworks at each other on the deck and in the woods. Only saving grace, nothing high powered, I think roman candles might have been the “big gun”. Despite going through a ton of fireworks that week-end nobody caught a bottle rocket to the eye and more amazingly no fires were started. Sunday was spent working off hangovers by cleaning house, deck and general area.

I and two attorneys walked around the building ledge of our offices on the thirtieth floor of a skyscraper. We had been having happy hour in the conference room on a Friday night and when we were the last people left in the room, somehow it seemed like an intelligent thing to do. So we opened the big conference room window and stepped out. We went all the way around the circumference of the building.

I succeeded in that I didn’t die that night. Nor did I get fired.

You might enjoy legendary radio announcer Steve Post’s story of how he did the same thing (albeit out of necessity):

Oh, hell no.

What is it with seven-year-olds? You’re reminding me of something where I wasn’t the dummy, just really worried about him. The house we moved to when I was 10 and my brother was 4 was on 7 acres, 5 of them wooded. At age 7 little bro was obsessed with those woods, and yelled at a lot not to go into them without me or one of our parents. Of course he claimed to “forget” that it wasn’t allowed every time he was caught leaving the yard. By the end of the fall, though, he seemed to remember the rule pretty well.

Until one day in January or February when we got home from school just as a snow storm got rolling. Mom was at work and dad was sleeping because he had to be at work at 7pm. I left my brother in the family room and went to do my homework. Dad woke up around 3:45 and came to my room to ask “Where’s your brother?”

He’s watching TV, I replied, puzzled. He’s not watching TV, Dad insisted. We searched the whole house, and little bro was nowhere to be found. He wasn’t in the front or back yard, either.

I don’t know if Dad or I thought of it, but eventually one of us noticed that there were tiny footprints in the snow, leading out to the woods, which was a bit of a surprise given he hadn’t wandered out there in months. It was almost dark out, and snowing hard, so those little footprints were rapidly filling with snow. We made haste as you can imagine. I don’t know how dad felt, but I was terrified that the snow would completely erase them before we found him.

For such a little kid, he got really, really deep into the woods. When we eventually found him more than 20 minutes later, sitting on a log and crying, it was almost completely dark and very cold. Dad scooped him up, and carried him back to the house as little bro cried about being sorry and having been so scared that he was going to be alone in the dark snowy woods if we didn’t find him.

I don’t think he was ever grounded the rest of his childhood for longer than he was after that stunt.

Quantity is key here. The most I’ve taken as 3 and a half tabs, and that certainly got me visual hallucinations. I have no way to ascertain the potency, but if we assume 80 µm per tab that’s a fairly large dose.

But for me LSD is not about hallucinations- they are fun, but more about the experience. I tend to microdose, these days, anyway.

If you want hallucinations, try DMT or Salvia Divinorum, but I must warn you that neither are “fun”, they are both really hard work. I like having had the experience, but the experience itself was frightening and unpleasnt.

Alternatively - and I strongly do not recommend this - chlorofom has taken me into full hallucinations. The come-down is horrible and you will feel ill for days.

ETA: apparently chloroform oxidises into formaldehyde, something you probably don’t want in your lungs.

I didn’t have visual hallucinations, I had tactile hallucinations

Oh, fucking hell no. Never.

OK, maybe in a car.

I’ve taken 2.5 hits of acid we later found was four way, so 10 hits of acid. Even then, I’ve had more visual experiences tripping other times. Set and setting are important, no matter what.

Yeah, I feel almost all strong hallucinogens are really “Let’s find something out about ourselves” drugs rather than “Party drugs”. The craziest hallucinations are when you’ve convinced yourself that the situation is very different than it actually is, and those don’t require visual hallucinations.

Man, those two are kind of the horror movie of hallucinogens, the only saving grace is that their effects are not that prolonged.

Mostly I have audio hallucinations, myself.

Thanks for the advice. I didn’t mention that my two experiences with acid were almost 50 years ago, when I was in my early twenties. I am about as likely to take acid now, at 67, as I am to climb Mt. Everest.

I have found that dropping acid and exercising my imagination are extremely different experiences. I didn’t do a whole lot of acid, and wouldn’t be inclined to now, but if you want a really wonderful memorable trip, it’s best to stay outside in nature, and be with a person who has done it before and whom you trust. A bad trip can be as scary as a good trip can be unbelievably marvelous.

I remember one trip where I started seeing everyone with their heads upside down, which was very disturbing, so my friend walked me out to the ocean and we watched the sun set into it, which fixed me.

I’ve never had actual visual hallucinations (with one recurrent exception which I’ll describe below) but that’s not why I took LSD. Wasn’t going for a fun ride, I wanted understandings, insights and stuff. Got 'em, incredibly vivid ones. That’s your real hippie tripping, getting into that higher consciousness shit and all that. Of course, when I came down, they floated away like cotton candy in the rain. But I got it into my head that maybe that didn’t mean they were all illusory, and so on future trips I made more of an effort to document them and hold on to the new understandings, and that worked, too.

On a cognitive level, it’s like being able to follow a faint little footpath that connects disparate thoughts and see how they link, but then you can’t find that path again to retrace your steps when you come down… not without a lot of practice.

Now, for the visual-hallucination exceptions, I regard the following as a predictable side effect, as I get it often. At a certain focal distance, in the general vicinity of things 8 feet away from your eyeballs, you can’t distinguish static motionless surfaces from surfaces where things are moving, writhing slowly like they were covered 1 inch deep in lazy caterpillars. Nothing melts, no caterpillars start talking to you like Alice in Wonderland, nothing like that, just… ooh, the lines in the fabric of my bedspread are wiggling back and forth! Trees off on the ridge of yonder mountain don’t do it, the hairs on the back of my hand don’t do it, just things approx 6-10 feet away.

Your mileage may of course vary considerably.

I scanned this as “Your mirage may of course vary considerably”