Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1)

Eh, we’ve learned to recognize it and call it out for what it is.

It doesn’t seem to stop them from using it as a tactic though, and now they whine about people being mean to them for calling them out on it.

I had little-to-no thoughts, at all, about Elon Musk prior to his “Look at how bad I am at Twitter!” antics. Now I think he’s an asshole, and at the very least white-supremacy-adjacent, based on his fucking public actions and statements.

The funny thing about this thread is that it started several months before Elmo declared he was a Republican now.

Evidence isn’t Sam’s strong point.

(see this time I’m ‘attacking’ you, Sam)

Har! It’s the exact opposite really. Chumps like you only started really caping up for him when you saw he was trying to trigger liberals.

Any mild criticism of your new God gets you running in here hyperventilating. I mean objecting to the hyperbole that’s he’s the greatest rocket scientist the world has ever seen or that he’s the greatest thing to happen to Africa initiates a several paragraph meltdown in weird little nerds like you.

A timeline of this liberal’s perception of Elon.

  1. White noise.
  2. The guy whose company was selling flamethrowers.
  3. White noise.
  4. The Tesla guy.
  5. White noise.
  6. The guy who called another guy a ‘pedo guy’ because he was feeling insecure.
  7. White noise, but now the racist kind instead of the static kind.

FWIW, I started hating him when he refused to consider to increase the albedo of the starlink satellites that were fucking up astronomical imaging from Earth. For a guy who wanted to explore our solar system through SpaceX, build a greener world with Tesla and wanted to make a better, more connected world with Starlink; it turned out his actions were actually selfish and without regard for the other ways that people want to explore, make the world better and more connected. For me that was a few years ago. Long before the current selfishness and lack of regard.
Take this datum point as you will.

I have no idea where you get that from. First, they needed to decrease albedo, not increase it. SpaceX has spent a huge amount of money redesigning their satellites to have a lower albedo. Also, SpaceX actually applied to have their satellites parked in a lower orbit so they would decay in a shorter amount of time should they fail to reduce sky clutter

Also, the main effect on astronomy is in the early morning when it’s still dark on the ground but the sun is shining on overhead satellites. The main observatory affected will be the Vera Rubin observatory because it does an all-sky survey. There are methods to exclude satellite trails from those images, as it’s a problem for the VRO regardless of Starlink.

In the meantime, Starlink is a massive boon to people in the 3rd world, countries without a good telecom network, and rural people everywhere. He’s done more good with Starlink than most philanthropists manage in their entire lives, and it’s just getting started. Ask the poor children in African countries who now have access to the internet for education, gig work, etc.

We sponsor a child in Ethiopia. They are very excited at the possibility of getting Starlink. It will change their lives. Having astronomers throw out a few extra frames in their stack is a small price to pay for uplifting the poor of the world.

This from the not a Musk fanboy. Sigh.

Jesus dude, Starlink has been active in Africa for a month. In Nigeria he’s charging about 8% of monthly income (in this USA it is about 2% of monthly income). In terms of absolute cost, I guess it might be considered generous but can we hold off giving Musk a sainthood for a little while yet? I mean he did cut off Starlink to Ukraine just before a Russian offensive (what a coincidence), so I’m not sure I quite buy him as that much of a good guy.

A philanthropist charging people 8% of their monthly income for something they could be providing for free is one definition of philanthropy . . . I guess.

Fair enough, I got the increase/decrease wrong,
the article that birthed the hate in me, Elon Musk’s Starlink satellites are interfering with astronomy. It’s just the beginning. - Vox

Fine, I’ll be out on the porch, since you are already up on the cross.

Oh when Africa hasn’t emerged as world power in five years, the Musk fan boys will get to go back to their favorite race realism schtick. “They couldn’t even succeed when given gifts from our benevolent agile rocket programming God”.

Elmo is pro-insurrectionist now.

My irony meter just exploded. This is a comical example of the aphorism “every accusation is a confession “

Is this an appropriate time to remind the board that Sam is our resident George Santos, caught blatantly lying over and over and over again?

Not that it isn’t earned and all, but you’re elevating SS to Octo levels by letting him make the thread all about him. Take it to his thread, or just ignore him. He’s intellectually dishonest, that discussion has been done in his thread repeatedly. He isn’t going to fix it here.

If SS wants to disregard facts and build a legion of strawmen to white knight for the Muskrat, there’s nothing we can do. He is immune to facts, shame, and as quoted upthread, unwilling to ever own up to his own damn statements.

All you’re doing is cluttering up the thread and feeding his martyr complex.

I like how you looped everything back to Musk with this comment.

And so quickly! So efficiently! A hyperloop, if you will.

One might say that Sam is Boring Company?

Who knows is Morgan Stanley is right or now? Certainly, a lot of Musk fanboys will buy a Cybertruck, but I have to agree, I just don’t see mainstream truck purchasers getting a Cybertruck. Now when you can get an electric Ford Lighting (for example). So many people own a Ford F-150, if they were going to switch to an electric truck the Ford Lighting seems more likely. TSLA is still vastly overpriced. It has a PE ratio of 44, compared to Apple’s 22 or Toyota’s 9.1.