Absent a legal and tax team (if those rumors are true) it won’t be long before the Feds pull their plug. If IT chaos doesn’t do it first.
The person who came up with “space Karen” totally is a genius.
Funny you should mention that…
That seems to be a different one than the one that was projected on the building last night, per the clip you attached. These were last night’s opinions of Musk (not in order): apartheid profiteer, petulant pimple, bankruptcy baby, megalomaniac, petty racist, mediocre man-child, pressurized privilege, worthless billionaire, supreme parasite.
Yes, Musk’s takeover of Twitter has definitely made him a hero of Silicon Valley and the whole tech world, just as he always intended!
I don’t think the email is a binding offer.
During the exit process and to get severance, the employee would have to sign any legal agreements like NDAs and ‘I’m not going to sue’ agreements. The employee could refuse at which point they could be terminated instead.
However in this case most of the ‘severance’ is not severance it is WARN act pre-notification. I don’t know if it’s possible to fire someone and avoid the WARN pre-notification while you are in a WARN period with a bunch of other people. So it might be possible to refuse and still get the 60 or 90 days pre-notification pay. But of course you are an employee during this time so they might be able to require you to come to the office and sit in an empty room. Most bosses wouldn’t, but Musk?
It’s one of those cases where, yeah, an employee might be able to get away with it, but they could shoot themselves in the foot.
Yup. Lotta rumors. I wonder what’s true.
I also read they’d lost payroll. But don’t most companies outsource payroll to a service company?
But it certainly looks like Twitter is going down. The only question is how fast.
Jesus, I posted this 18 days ago. Never in a thousand years did I think he’d be able to tank Twitter this quickly.
I saw a longer clip of the scroll that had all of the insults both of you listed. It was epic, especially space Karen.
The details, yes. But someone at Twitter has to know who’s at work, who got hired, fired, etc. For those folks who are hourly, someone has to ensure their timecard info gets to the 3rd party payroll processor.
I suppose 99% of even that stuff could in theory be outsourced. But somehow somewhere there’s some real employees who deal with some of it. And whose absence will pretty quickly create a problem since they’re, almost by definition, the hardest or most central parts of the process that could not already be outsourced.
“Those responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked, have been sacked.”
It’s a communication from the CEO, in writing, stating a clear quid pro quo.
I agree that it would be vigorously disputed, and may not stand up. My point is that the reckless sloppiness of Musk’s management is what makes it possible to attempt the argument at all.
Not entirely without a legal team. I haven’t posted in this thread because I didn’t want to sound like I was name-dropping, but Twitter’s deputy general counsel is my cousin - I’m going to his home for Thanksgiving, as a matter of fact - and I haven’t seen his name among the casualties. That’s what keeps me from enjoying the schadenfreude of Elmo’s epic self-immolation too much; I’m worried about him.
You’d think he’d bother? Why not cost Elon an extra couple of bucks in electricity would be my thought process.
Agreed, basically the entire illustration and comics publishing world runs on Twitter. It’s how careers have been made for the past 10+ years, and we don’t know what’s going to happen in the aftermath. Instagram/Tiktok is terrible for sharing art.
(ETA: Sorry, this was supposed to be replying to Manda Jo, but something got messed up.)
//
I’m still not sure I understand what Musk is doing - surely he’s making money off this somehow, right? Or is he really just destroying it because he got mad they wouldn’t back out of the deal and he’s so rich it doesn’t matter to him?
The goal is to hobble the American press. That’s it.
IANAL, but that looks like a binding offer to me.
That’s one way to describe careening off a cliff, yes.
That makes sense. I also think Twitter has been especially useful for the blossoming unionizing movement, but I didn’t know if that was me veering too far into conspiracy territory.
My sympathies but I feel confident that this void will quickly be filled by some other ‘social’ application, and hopefully one that isn’t a cesspit of disinformation and hatred that Twitter became because of its lax-to-the-point-of-being-a-tool-of-propagandists-and-demagogues editorial policy.
I see people claiming that without Twitter this or that wouldn’t have happened, which I find implausible to the point absurdity. The unprovoked invasion of Ukraine would have sparked outrage regardless, and frankly Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy‘s command of more traditional medium-length speechifying has likely been far more of an influence upon the motivation upon NATO powers to engage and provide weapons and materiel for Ukrainian resistance. Twitter has allowed for real time information from the ground to the general public but a lot of the information has been pretty garbled in classic “fog-of-war” fashion, and not something that I believe that intelligence services are relying upon to inform NATO political and military leadership.
And while you can point to the George Floyd murder and other social uprisings of 2020 as facilitated by Twitter, I think that the combination of the pandemic shutdowns, lack of adequate government response, pressure on “critical workers” who were disproportionately minorities, general political unrest, and long-simmering resentment over increasing income inequality was going to bring this to a head regardless of whether a video was posted on Twitter, Youtube, Facebook, TikTok, or even MySpace (yes, it still exists). Twitter has a critical mass of followers and the editors at CNN.com seem completely addicted to it but a public video of a police officer choking a black man to death in public view for eight minutes is going to get coverage regardless of where it gets platformed.
Conversely, I think we can say that without Twitter, the crowd at the January 6, 2021 ‘gathering’ probably wouldn’t have gotten enough momentum to actually press forward in attacking the Capital building without Trump’s twittering incitement (and it isn’t as if Trump is going to post a video to YouTube or write an entire Facebook post). As McLuhan observed, “The medium is the message,” and as a medium, Twitter is purpose-designed to foster immediate and visceral excitement, rejoinder, and outrage without reflection or consideration.
Any reporter who “depends” on Twitter for their access and information isn’t much of a journalist.
No, you misunderstand; they are tall women with eight feet. Don’t get in a kickboxing match with them because you’ll get pounded from all sides in a flurry of kicks that would make Tarantino cream his pants.
At this point, your sister should be nervously looking around for an errant moose.
Stranger
Option C: Musk thinks these are but short term losses/difficulties and his in-born talent and drive will lead to a revolutionary change at the company that will result in an unprecedented boom, i.e. he has fully bought into the myth of his own genius/infallibility.