Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 2)

My brother bought a Model S in 2015. I got him a Bought when Elon was the cool space guy sticker.

This is about all you need to know about Grokipedia

Is there something that’s to be taken as self-evident here? I do need to know more.

I recommend you read them. Especially for you these should be right up your alley.

The Apartheid article has a section entitled " Evaluations of Apartheid’s Achievements Versus Failings"
Do you still need to know any more?

Should’a called it Blitzpedia.

That Grokipedia entry on Apartheid is a dangerous combination of subtly biased, obviously biased and blatantly cherry picked from better sources.

An example:

”Accompanying industrialization was increased black urbanization, from 20% of the black population in cities in 1960 to over 40% by 1980, fostering a nascent black middle class through skilled employment and entrepreneurship.”

That may be a factually accurate statement, but it rather obviously ignores the huge demographic shifts that occurred prior to the 1960s when the Group Areas Act forced people from their homes.

It also makes multiple claims about the economy that are directly contradicted by the fact that Apartheid was demonstrably a terrible policy economically, as was predicted by many in the pre-apartheid era.

From the real Wiki article:

Although details of how it works are not currently known,[2] visitors to the encyclopedia can suggest edits via a pop-up form for reporting wrong information, but unlike Wikipedia and other wiki-based encyclopedias, they cannot directly edit articles. Businessman and xAI founder Elon Musk positioned Grokipedia as an alternative to Wikipedia that would “purge out the propaganda” in the latter. [7]

He left out the and replace it with propaganda I like, part.

I hadn’t read any of them, I was going by the headers in @Zoobi’s post.

It’s customary on the board to make your point in a post without just lazily posting a link and expecting others to go dig it up for you.

Then you’re an idiot.. If someone links to some stuff, and you just go by the link previews and then act all huffy and entitled about it, YTA.

When your point is that the content at the links is shit - when the stuff linked to is what your post is about - then no, just linking to them is sufficient.

Setting aside the fussing about quoting or commenting (or not) beyond what the preview box shows …

IMO…
It’s probably not by accident that the initial few sentences of each Grokopedia entry as shown in the preview sound reasonable on their face. All the evil propaganda is buried in the second and subsequent paragraphs. As a way of lowering folks’ defenses as they wade into the raging garbage that’s the rest of the article.

I mean, technically, the apartheid government did manage to provoke sufficient resistance so that they were overthrown.

I think that is an achievement. A well aimed shot in the foot.

Grok is asking 12-year-old boys for nude photos now.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/investigates/tesla-grok-mom-9.6956930

“[Musk is] a free speech extremist. He wants Grok to be completely open, to have any conversation with anyone. And that’s a principled stance that he’s taken, but it may not be what every consumer is looking for.”

A lie proven many times in this thread given the frequent censorship he has engaged in. He believes in free speech that he agrees with, and only that.

Particularly when prefaced with

And rather than just lazily posting links, which one would at least have one need to click on to read the articles, changing the links to previews which show nothing wrong with the articles. Ffs, if you’re going to go to the trouble of making them previews, why not just quote the objectionable parts?

That was my objection. I have no doubt the total content is horrific. But the cites, as included in the thread, don’t demonstrate that.

Show your work or be called on it.

Oh, for fuck’s sake…
The previews are automatically added by Discourse. All that they actually posted was links.

You really are a bunch of entitled fucks too precious to view anything not spoonfed to you by hand. That’s not discernment, it’s just laziness on your part - which is why you project your laziness on the person who bothered to gather links to the evidence in one place.

Jesus fucking Christ, you dinosaurs are so fucking tedious sometimes.

I’m with you 100% on this. So often I see complaints that I (or someone else) didn’t explain the contents of a link extensively enough. That’s what the fucking link is for, if you are interested enough to click it, do, if not then just move the fuck on.

Bare links with no context, I can see the validity of that complaint - a “look at this cool vid” link absent other context, sure, bitch away.

But the post under discussion had context. It’s in this thread about what a chud Musk is, and the links are explicitly stated as to his Nazipedia.