It mattered to Wolfpup’s argument.
And so is South Africa, yet people keep trying to reduce Musk’s racism and white supremecy down to being purely a product of his birthplace and initial upbringing.
Musk is a racist because being a racist has never been a problem in any of the places he has lived. Even though some of those places would not accept his racism today.
6 will get you 19 Felon47 prohibits federal governent offices and the military from celebrating that and somehow penalizes blue states who do celebrate it this year.
At the moment, I’m hoping it’s just neo-Nazism. Trump strikes me as old hat Nazi. Not a one of his overtly racist polices/executive orders has convinced me otherwise.
Bolding mine.
Look, people around here aren’t purely attributing it to his South African upbringing. And I understand the urge to get defensive about it. And I understand we have our own issues in the US.
But it really doesn’t help your cause to minimize the effect, either. His dad is still hanging around the country and is, if anything, worse and it is only his relatively lower profile that makes him less dangerous. And, for most people, the culture you are exposed to in your first 15-20 years of life shapes you vastly more than whatever you experience in the next 100.
I’m guessing for most people, part of the culture for those 100 years after the first 15-20 is worm culture.
I’ll say this for worms - they’re equal opportunity corpse feeders. They don’t care if you were white, black, Christian, or fascist.
I think they avoid the fascists out of professional courtesy.
Truly, we’re missing the probable fact that Elmo’s brand of racism is a unique amalgam of “Apartheid was great”, “Hitler did nothing wrong”, and good ol’ fashioned American racism.
It’s not just one hideous thing. It’s a complex melange of horrible hatreds.
Well said. I think most of us, like me, didn’t fully appreciate what a completely deranged racist asshole Musk was until he took over Twitter and started spouting his venom.
Thing is, he’s in basically the same position now as his orange co-president – he’s basically invulnerable. Lost Tesla sales? He doesn’t give a shit – he just hugely jacked up the price of Teslas in Canada (like a $9K increase on the most popular Model 3) just for spite. When Doug Ford cancelled Ontario’s $100 million Starlink contract (it’s now back on) Elmo tweeted two words: “Oh, well”. Elmo losing a few billion is like an ordinary person losing a dime through a hole in their pocket.
And (more worryingly) he’s in a position to directly embezzle the Treasury of the United States without consequences. So commercial failures have become nearly irrelevant.
The Phillip Law exposé article recently cited somewhere around here is telling.
Elmo is a firm believer in a Master Race. But he, and he alone, is in it. The entire rest of humanity are inferior NPCs to be enslaved or ignored.
I’m telling you, The Man Who Fell to Earth is not a David Bowie movie, it’s a documentary about Elmo.
Quoting myself for context:
Turns out that name is Philip Low. Oops. That’s why I had failed to search it up successfully earlier.
The Elmo exposé is upthread here and deserves a far wider audience than the spoilering of it suggests:
If you have not read the spoilered content in @eschereal’s cited post please do. IMO it’s essential to correctly understanding the elmo phenomenon & the hazard he poses to everyone.
You need to choose your words more judiciously. “Hazard” implies a threat. Ell’no’s potential has been realized. He is no longer a hazard, he is a genuine problem, with no sign of abating. Something has to be done about him, but the means are not clearly available, and it is not evident that he will not be replaced by a problem that comparable, or worse.
I don’t disagree. But the way I meant it was that problem he manifests as now is IMO a small fraction of the problem he’s going to become. There’s a lot of hazard yet to materialize.
Anyone who’s now saying he’s 95% noise and bluster and real quick trump will get tired of somebody else hogging his stage and that’ll be the end of the elmo show is IMO sadly mistaken.
Next time, boo harder.
There’s enough wackiness in trump/elon world without importing the Onion into it.
Actually, not quite.
A massive proportion of Elmo’s wealth is tied up in shares, and Tesla in particular is massively overvalued. If the market sees Tesla as just another car brand, and one that is apparently on the decline, he could “lose” tens of billions overnight and put much of the rest at risk in turn.
There isn’t a realistic risk of him not being a billionaire but he could lose 70-80% of his current “worth” in a plausible scenario.
<Grabs can opener for recently closed can>
I’m also going to throw out that I saw no issue with what you were saying about Canadians. People say things like “he’s nothing like any Canadians I’ve met”; it’s just putting across an impression of the culture and the person, not claiming omniscience.
And that really is the key to the differing opinions on Telsa’s valuation.
Is it a car company? A battery company with a sidelight in cars? Or a self-driving AI company with a very hefty fleet of beta testers somebody else is paying for?
Truth is it’s all three. And the fans see the latter two markets as vastly larger, faster growing, and easier for Tesla to stay the leader in. While the naysayers dismiss the second two and are steadfastly focused on car delivery volumes and margins.
I personally am only partly persuaded by the boosters’ arguments. But it’s not crazy talk either.
Release the worms!!!1! 
