NRA decides the 1st Amendment is making them look bad, seeks limits

No real need to be clairvoyant with Dana Loesch whining about “ratings”.

I’d be perfectly willing to be outraged by the NRA seeking to suppress free speech. I’d even readily believe in examples of that without taking due care to ensure they’re true, I’m that much of a reactionary.

That said, this thread isn’t really doing it for me.

Yeah, it is a kind of, “How does that make You feel, libtards, when we propose limiting an amendment we don’t care about in a not-really-analagous way to the way our strawman conception of you doesn’t care about the 2nd Amendment?”

Want to study the way media coverage affects shooting deaths? Ok, knowledge is good. Why don’t we also study the way gun proliferation affects gun deaths? Because, yanno, knowledge is good. Whoops! Hit a wall there, didn’t I?

For fuck sake, he didn’t say he didn’t care about the 1st amendment. In fact it’s quoted at the end of the linked article:

It is possible to hate the NRA without being a complete moron about it. Just saying.

Are you sure about that? Evidence suggests otherwise.

Do you think NRA members would rise up and “fight against tyranny” if laws limiting the press were enacted? Please.

Perhaps a view outside of your own colon might show a different perspective.

Quite sure. What you call evidence is probably confirmation bias.

Yeah, this thread is a failure. Of all the things to pit the NRA for–their constant use of violent metaphor, their dishonest manipulation of statistics, their cynical profiteering off homicide, and their incredibly shitty analogies between the first and second amendments–this is not among them.

Like I said, you don’t have to be a moron so why not try it? I’m sure plenty of NRA members like free speech. There’s plenty of “Libtards” who would be thrilled with hate speech laws that limited the 1st amendment.

I for one doubt the NRA seriously wants the media to stop reporting details of school shootings because as long as the media continues reporting details of school shootings, the NRA will have something other than gun culture to blame for school shootings.

I’ve been an NRA member for 20 years and also value the other amendments, especially the 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th and 10th. I would join the ACLU if it would fight to protect the 2nd amendment like it does the others.

I think a free press is invaluable.

Watch how you paint with that broad brush.

well said.

Is it valuable enough that you would start shooting police if they came to shut down the media?

What the fuck is your problem? Do you think they’ll start shooting police if stricter gun laws are enacted? Despite what some of you frantic ninnies are saying, the NRA is a gun rights advocacy group, not an organized militia/terrorist group waiting to spring into action.

Ah, but the OP’s article is a Schrodinger’s Gotcha, don’t you think? First they take the pose I describe, and then it is, “Sike! I have nothing but respect for the 1st Amendment blah blah.” They take both positions so they can plausibly deny objections from either angle. Great for stirring up shit.

Yeah. Because of posts like this:

Yes, just like Swift simultaneously did and did not want to eat Irish babies. Get a grip.

Swift’s satire was far more deft. It is too easy to believe edgy things about the NRA, even for those of us with a firm grip.

After all, the NRA is on record successfully lobbying to restrict the 1st Amendment. Why else can’t the CDC investigate the connection between guns and gun deaths? Is Swift on record ever having eaten a baby?