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Take that, you pussified anti-nuclear whackjobs!
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From the (obviously biased according to The Gonz) IAEA web page for today’s update:
From your cite:
No one is saying it’s health food, or will have zero effects, but it sounds a lot worse than it actually is. And it seems the priority is to try and get the highly radioactive materials out of the basements and tunnels that is leaking into the same place. If they can get that water out of there and into the storage currently used by lower level radioactive water then overall that seems to be a good thing, as it will decrease what is leaking and allow more access to the areas that need repair if the workers don’t have to slog through highly radioactive water to get to those places.
You mean the reactor that is under control and didn’t have any problems? You know, 5 and 6, the two that were already shut down at the time of the disaster.
The two buildings that didn’t blow up. That they chopped huge holes in to prevent a hydrogen explosion.
That anybody still believes any of the bullshit TEPCO is shoveling, it shows the power of a true believer.
I’m relying on the IAEA as my primary source for news on this, since they, you know, have people on the spot and working the problem. Who are you relying on again to keep you informed? Some bloggers. Some ‘experts’ who aren’t on site? Some nutty anti-nuke sites with an agenda? Your own obviously ignorant and uninformed preconceptions and opinions? The chicken in your trousers that whispers to you that the sky might be falling??
I’ve said it before, I’m part of a very long and intense discussion by real scientists and engineers, where speculation and insults are enough to get you banned.
And no, foul mouthed idiots who cast aspersions aren’t invited to the party.
While i certainly bitched about the lack of imaging, especially infra red, that data has been leaking out, and between that and the forensic analysis done by the French, based on the fallout, there is a pretty good idea of what actually happened now.
Of course it’ so much worse than the media are reporting, and far worse than what TEPCO is still trying to get everyone to believe.
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I’ve said it before, I’m part of a very long and intense discussion by real scientists and engineers, where speculation and insults are enough to get you banned.
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Yes, you’ve said that before…and you have about as much credibility on this assertion as you have on the others you’ve made. I won’t say zero, since you certainly have a following amongst the Le Jac, Gonz and TSS crowd (I won’t count lev in that group, much as he and I have disagreed)…but, based on your contributions in these series of threads I’d rate the chances of you being involved in any sort of serious discussion regarding the dangers, or the pros and cons of nuclear energy (or anything else having anything remotely to do with the subject) as about the same as having the earthquake and tsunami that hit Japan being caused by mutant space worms digging for unobtaineum off the coast. Possibly the mutant space worm theory is actually a higher probability.
Well, if you are being allowed in the obviously smarmy, brain damaged idiots ARE invited…well, unless you crashed the party that is.
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Remember kids, radioactive material from destroyed reactors isn’t the danger, the real danger is words.
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I just hope you aren’t holding an open flame around all that straw you are shoveling…or around that bag full of glue you are sniffing! Fire…strawmen…glue…paper bag…now THAT is a dangerous combination, especially when combined with a guy who is delusional AND has the mental capacity of a not particularly intelligent kumquat…
I’m sure it will be rejected as biased itself, but the Sourcewatch article on the IAEA is a good, well-cited read explaining why the IAEA is anything but an unbiased source about anything nuclear.
Regarding the reporting of the Fukushima crisis specifically, I treat the IAEA as a source, but there’s no way I trust their candy-coated G-rated “general audience” revelations of what’s going on in Japan.
Google Chrome auto-translates Japanese for me. It’s a crappy translation, but if you’re already familiar with the topic, it’s not hard to gist it.
It says, “Fuel melting point of 2700 degrees higher than the pressure vessel at 1550.” At least, that’s what page two (your link) of the article is about.
I think even **Xtisme **is coming around to the idea there’s been meltdowns. I think. Xtisme?
I think I mentioned the fact that there were (probably) partial meltdowns on, oh, the 2nd or 3rd day. I don’t recall ever denying the possibility, and even linked to a cite at some point with an expert saying that it might have been better for them to just let the things meld down completely than to try and pour tons of sea water on them to keep them cool, when the result was a partial melt down (worst of both worlds). Jury is still out on that, as they didn’t have the luxury of time to consider every angle…they were dealing with the disaster that had hit the entire area, as well as the localized disaster that hit just the power plant.
ETA: I love the fact that FXM links to an all Japanese web page and then thinks this means or proves something. Basically, if HE could read it I would expect him to do a summary or partial translation.
Sure you would, FXM. And I’m sure we all believe you! Just like we all believe that you are involved in serious discussions about this stuff in other places with ‘real’ experts on the subject. I mean, based on your posts on this board, who could doubt?
This board is about reducing ignorance. The trouble is, you are fountaining ignorance and misinformation. Bring some facts and people might not laugh at you.
Sure you would, FXM. And I’m sure we all believe you! Just like we all believe that you are involved in serious discussions about this stuff in other places with ‘real’ experts on the subject. I mean, based on your posts on this board, who could doubt?