There is a big difference between “we weren’t sure but we figured it was possible that it happened” and “it surprised the hell out of everyone(that has a clue about science and engineering and stuff) that it had happened”.
Spain’s solar industry is not doing so well (wind seems to be where it is at for them now).
There you go. The best way to assure people that nuclear power is safe, is to talk about other shit instead of nuclear power.
We are proud of you son.
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Instead of bragging about your experience, why not educate us with some facts? Not that we believe you about having been there, but still, you could take the same amount of time you spent bragging and post some figures.
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Bragging, ehe? 
Too funny.
Here is a Wiki on Yucca Mountain. As of 2008, the DOE was estimating costs at $96 billion and change (this of course doesn’t count the costs the government will have to pay to the nuclear power companies because they defaulted on their promise to build a waste repository…a waste repository that nuclear power companies also ponied up money for). Now, obviously some of those costs won’t ever have to be paid, since the repository will seemingly never get used:
I think the $13.5 billion is way low for the supposed costs ‘already spent on the project’, but that’s what this cite says so that’s the answer to your question. Of course, eventually people will realize that we have to put the waste somewhere (or start allowing reprocessing), so it will probably get jerked around again, so we can pour more money into it, only to have it killed again by the anti-nuke fruit cakes like you…only to realize again that we have to do something…so we can jerk it around again…and pour more money into it, only to have anti-nuke fruit cakes like you kill it again…rinse…repeat…waste more money…
The serious problems caused by folks like you with signs, making ridiculous demands about unrealistic time frames that it has to be ‘safe’ in, and poisoning the well so much in Nevada with fear and bullshit that the project was eventually killed? Yeah…I know all about them.
-XT
It was years until they could get to it. Contamination and stuff.
Don’t blame me motherfucker. I never protested shit, much less tried to stop Yucca mountain. Fuck Nevada, fill that shit up.
At TMI they were all like, “What? The water leaked into the other reactor containment building? And now we can’t use that one either?”
Yeah bitches, that is exactly what happened.
And then they realized the concrete was too contaminated to move, so it’s all still there.
And 100 years from now, what are the odds that anyone alive when TMI happened will still be alive, huh? Huh? Just about zero, that’s what. They will all be dead! All of the workers at the nuclear power plant in Japan will all be dead too! That’s how deadly nuclear power is! Everyone working at every nuclear power plant IN THE WORLD TODAY WILL BE DEAD TOO! All of them. 100%!!
Scary, no?
-XT
Even a slight breeze generates some electricity. Unlike a destroyed nuke plant, which generates nothing that gets onto the grid. A destroyed nuke plant can contribute to the food chain for years.
I think that is a big reason for the difference of opinion. The nukies don’t believe that officials would like to them. They don’t believe that a nuclear core can meltdown until it is confirmed that it has meltdown. Until confirmed, it is a trivial accident spouting trivial amount of radiation, after it is confirmed it happened years ago due to bad design we aren’t using anymore, we can’t possibly design another bad design and look over there! A windspill! It’s Schrodinger’s fucking meltdown. It doesn’t exist and if you can confirm it, then it took place in the past. These folks think that Three Mile Island and Chernobyl were not big deals. The general public is of a different opinion because they have to drink the irradiated kool aid as it builds up in the food chain.
Not if it can’t overcome the force of static friction.
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Even a slight breeze generates some electricity.
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Hell, even a wind turbine that’s been destroyed in a storm or is down for maintenance probably generates some electricity. A volt or two here, a volt or two there and after a while you are talking enough to light a light bulb…and after that it’s all money!
And since this happens so often, it’s no wonder that the grid is always on the verge of brown outs or black outs…er, but it doesn’t, so your point is silly.
Well, that’s good, since every little bit contributing to the food chain is a helpment! Oh, you meant the radiation thingy, right? Well, it’s a shame that they get destroyed so often then, isn’t it? On a happier note, a working coal plant contributes to the food chain for years too…and a destroyed one contributes all the more, so it’s all good!
-XT
This is an overview of their capabilities.
Cut-in is 7.8 mph and cut-out is 56 mph.
If someone tells you you’re going to get 2.5MW sustained output from a turbine, they’re lying. It they tell you you’re going to get 500MW sustained output from a 500MW-rated nuke plant they’re lying.
If a utility installs a wind farm, they’re going to know what the whole farm can be expected to produce, and they’re not going to be saying “ah, man! That guy said we’d get 2.5MW out of these things all the time!”
Of course, in the news release they will keep things simple and, as a for instance, just multiply 2.5MW times 338 and call it an 845MW wind farm.
Lyin’ bastards.
The thing about them windmills, is when the wind does blow, you get a shitload of power from them. Like, a lot. And if you base your value on power, which means money, and sometimes you get like, a lot of money from wind, it kind of makes it attractive.
I live next to a very big wind farm, and they are almost always turning, even when it feels like there is no breeze on the ground level.
Stupid windmills. Always turning, making power.
And nobody realizes how deadly they are.
You are in danger. I live about 30 miles from Fermi’ It has only suffered one meltdown . There is a book about it" the Day We Almost lost Detroit". I would just be an uninformed anti nukie. if that bothered me. It has had endless problems and has been for a while, used as a teaching facility because they were afraid to turn it up to full power. It cost a pile of money to build. It never delivered. But the fact that it really did not quite vaporize Detroit proves nuclear is safe.
Detroit?
It DIDN’T destroy it?
Well, hell that alone shows how shitty nucleeuurr power is.
I thought Fermi was near Chicago.
I went to UCLA and they had (and may still have) a reactor in Boelter Hall for the engineering and physics students to screw around with. I walked within 100 yards of that monstrosity every day. That proves that Godzilla is tame.
Rancho Seco is the nearest commercial reactor to where I live, and it was shut down by its owners (SMUD f’in voting taxpayers) because it never worked at more than 39 percent capacity. There are a few reactors near Sunol and probably a whole bunch in Livermore at the mad scientists lab there.
Yucca mountain was approved in 1978. It has had 10 billion dollars spent on it. The cost over runs have been enormous. It has not been finished .I suppose the anti nukers used their enormous political pull to end it. Where the hell was that power for the last 3 decades? It has been a very good repository of tax money. Thirty years and 10 billion dollars indicates the anti nukers power stopped it?. XT ,think about it. How dumb was that claim?