This man better than anyone else anywhere near his position knew what he was talking about. He wasn’t owned by the nuclear lobby and told them to fuck off. And thank the universe he did.
No, I’m sure he was secretly replaced with a hippy clone because everyone knows those diabolical fuckers are the ones really running the planet. It’s very hush, hush though. Don’t quote me. I want to live at least a little longer.
Carter said “no” to breeder reactors and plutonium reprocessing. He was right! France, Japan, Russia - they went ahead with it. Now what do they have to show for it? Tons and tons of enriched, weapons-grade plutonium piling up because they can’t do anything with it. That’s precisely the proliferation risk President Carter was trying to avoid.
After all this time and money there’s only one commercially working breeder, and that’s in Russia. It doesn’t even use the enriched plutonium. It’s a “new” reactor still being run like an old reactor. At 1,000 times the price! Such a deal! Meahwhile, increasing amounts of weapons-grade plutonium keep piling up. Don’t worry, we’ll figure something out. It won’t be a problem in 40 years! Sound familiar?
They said spent nuclear fuel wouldn’t be a problem in 40 years, about 50 years ago and guess what? It’s a huge problem now. Just ask Tepco.
Hey, as long as we can’t prove which cancers were caused by man made nuclear radiation and which would have otherwise occurred, then none of them are. It doesn’t matter whether Chernobyl caused 4,000 deaths or 600,000 deaths due to increased cancer levels because the non-industry people who have the cancers can’t prove the cause and must simply suffer and die without compensation because they can’t prove it. Blessed be the privatized profits and socialized losses.
Excuse me, but how old is he now? I though that according to many of the nuclear exaggerators he should be dead already a long time ago.
Since Carter endorsed the recommendations of Kemeny Commission that investigated Three mile island, one has to say that Carter was not against nuclear power, even after TMI, his main beef was against enrichment or the reuse of nuclear waste and plutonium.
Earlier in this thread I linked to a site that documented when Lt. James Earl Carter of the US Navy was commended for stopping a meltdown. He has not been a proponent of nuclear power and knows as much about operations and meltdowns as anyone alive. His silence on the issue isn’t an endorsement for nuclear power. If he thinks nuclear power is a course the country should take, he has the expertise and the prestige to openly endorse it. That he hasn’t in the 32 years since TMI isn’t an endorsement.
People die every year just in the mining of coal. There was a link posted earlier in this thread about it (hell, I may have posted it myself). If you want to posit further issues from using coal as power, you probably don’t have to go further than the claim of global warming. Does nuclear contribute to global warming? Less than a coal plant, I’d say.
So, yes, I can point to the bodies and say coal killed them. So, PUT UP OR SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
Chernobyl's Tragic Legacy | HuffPost The World Post It is not difficult to find evidence of Chernobyl effects. It has resulted in horrible deformations in people and animals in the area. It has been very ugly. Plants also sport the effects of radiation,.
In people it takes time. Cancers for those not real close come along in the future when our memories fade and we can claim the it was not a result of nuclear plant meltdown. It is hard to accept the responsibility . It is a very human thing to pretend it is not happening. But it is.
No, I don’t know, but I am pleased that he has a right to free speech on it, whether I like it or not. I don’t dislike it when someone disagrees with me, which you are implying he does. People have a right to disagree with me, and I with others.
That BTW was also a test, you see, others that read this thread in reality do not know much about a poster, and neither do I, but what is clear to me is that the quality of an opponent is demonstrated either by their knowledge or their capacity to discriminate among good or bad sources. Or if they are incapable of looking for information in the Google age.
I have seen and demonstrated how shitty was FX with his cite from “the sky is falling” with the rain in Berkeley.
Being unaware on what Carter has said about nuclear energy and nuclear plants painfully shows that what you said about him was pure BS.
He was addressing the workers of a nuclear power plant and you thought he’d go off about his non-proliferation concerns, the concerns I specifically mentioned? The part about killing breeder reactors and weapons-grade plutonium processing, which he did?
See, I googled around to, to see what he’s had to say about this latest Japan crisis, and I can’t find anything. Can you? Your article is from 2005.
Here, I’ll give your google skills a little test. Which country is he planning on visiting, with the aim of convincing that country to give up its insane nuclear ambitions, among other things? It’ll only take you a sec, so I’ll wait…
Wow, nuclear power plants are so safe and important it took 25 years - a quarter century - for an American president to set foot on a nuclear power plant, you know, just to see what the hell is going on in those places, 'cause like, they’re so strategically important and such?
The man steered us away from a particularly dangerous and wasteful nuclear path, but praised the hard working men (and women?) at a nuclear power plant. Duh.
No need to resort on Google, it is clear that you are assuming that all are incapable to see that I was replying to the say so of The second stone.
You are not just moving the goalposts, you are moving the stadium. So, sorry that you are finding that Carter is giving you nuclear cuties. Like many that are finding that the environment and our dependance on foreign oil can not be ignored nowadays, we do reassest the worth of nuclear power.
I didn’t find that quote when I googled. I’d be interested to hear what he has to say post Fukushima. It is interesting that the quote you found says nuclear power is now safe and environmentally friendly, the unspoken assumption being that it wasn’t in the past. Of course in the past the pro nukies assured us that it was.
We are still assured in the same kind of language used a half century ago that nuclear is safe and cheap. Despite the many accidents.
No, that is ignoring that Carter knows that the commission that he set up did its job, it is also ignoring that concepts like global warming and peak oil were not much of a deal back in the 70’s. In any case the fact is that now you are choosing to ignore what he is recommending, logic tells me that Carter will be smart enough to see that a natural disaster that made a nuclear one does not change his views much when already his work next to a meltdown, TMI, Chernobyl were in his mind.
There was not even a “no comment” comment, I figure that he is very busy in Cuba and other places.
So, you are grasping at straws, and in any case your comment was that in the last 32 years Carter had not said any endorsement, your say so was 100% bullshit.
That is a poor argument. The Japanese are putting dyes in the water to track the flow. It does not just disperse around the whole ocean. It goes into currents and pockets. It does not automatically disperse into the world oceans.
Leaving a nuke plant and saying something nice is not an endorsement, it’s being polite. If Carter wanted to support nuclear power, he knows how to do so. Economist asked Carter for a statement and he didn’t return their inquiry, that isn’t even a no comment, it’s silence.
Dick Cheney has endorsed and supported nuclear power. That’s how it’s done.
Meanwhile, in yesterday’s news, http://theenergycollective.com/dan-yurman/55411/fukushima-nuclear-crisis-news-update-april-9-2011 the government of Japan has decided it may be necessary to further extend the exclusion zone, without specifying anything. Is this a safety measure? A land grab? A distraction? In any event, it is a hearty Fuck You to the homeowners who can’t live anymore in the larger exclusion zone. Good old eminent domain, a forced sale at a nuclear exclusion zone price if they are lucky. But it doesn’t matter to here because it isn’t us. Because we are shutting down nuclear plants, not building or extending operation on them.
