“Of course getting sexually excited just from seeing someone naked is sociatally conditioned.”
We don’t get any of that in our art classes where we have nude models. But one guy draws stick figures & goes out for a smoke.
“Of course getting sexually excited just from seeing someone naked is sociatally conditioned.”
We don’t get any of that in our art classes where we have nude models. But one guy draws stick figures & goes out for a smoke.
A human is going to think about sex more often if it can see others’ sexual organs. If the organs are covered up, it’s less likely to arouse a thought.
But, just barely covering up your organs (bikini, thong, see through shirt) is just as bad and thought provoking. Almost making the organs taboo and thus sought-after.
However, clothes fill a need or gap in a humans’ life. They leave some things to the imagination of others and enhance the sexual experience when they come off to reveal the organs for the first time. Clothes teach expression. Clothes keep organs away from bacteria. Clothes protect organs while doing everyday activities. Clothes make it harder for kids to have sex. Clothes make it so that our unclothed bodies are more special and we can create an intimate relationship by revealing our bodies to the ones we love. Wearing clothes fosters this special “revealing”.
Natural is not always better. Clothing exists for a reason. I think society is better off with clothing. My kids will not miss out on a life where:
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Their bodies are their own and their spouse’s, that special intimacy
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They can express themselves with different clothing.
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They don’t have to worry about their genitals while going for a hike in the woods or playing basketball/tennis with their friends.
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They can hug the opposite sex without worrying about possibly losing their virginity!
Not remotely creepy. Which is not something I could say for the posts in this thread in which an astonishing number of people found something creepy about those camps. That’s creepy.
Is that what a lot of this thread is about? Do you folks think it is wrong for kids to have sex? I’m talking about “with each other, of their own volition”, not adults exploiting them. Do those of you who have a problem with the nude camps have a problem with kids having sex?
You think it is ok for kids to bring a life into being with them not being able to raise the life properly? You think it is ok that kids have sex and get pregnant and the baby has no father or capable mother to raise it? You think it is ok for kids to have sex with each other while not worrying about the others’ diseases? Well, that’s what happens when kids have sex, you know that right?
I can’t believe I am asking these questions… To answer your question, yes, it is wrong for kids to have sex. Not wrong necessarily because of moral issues, but because this practice becoming widespread would mean a crappy future for all of us.
I don’t have a problem with nudist camps, I just think the young’uns are better off living a life with clothes on along with the rest of society.
Who said anything about having kids? AHunter3 talked about teenagers having sex, and let me tell you from personal experience that it is very possible for teenagers to have sex without having kids.
And I can also tell you that it is very possible for teenagers to look at other attractive teenagers naked and not get sexually aroused!
Just because you’ve got hangups doesn’t mean you can’t unlearn your attitudes about sexuality and clothing.
Nude isn’t lewd.
Fuel, hugging is NOT how babies are made. You have to do “other” stuff. No teenager is going to get knocked up over a hug. Believe me. You should probably pass that information on to the kids, if you happen to think of it.
We seem to have gotten (is that really a word? I can never decide) a little far afield, but I’ll pass along my observations (again, these are observations from being around people who are devoted to the nudist lifestyle).
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The parents I’ve met tend to be well educated and they tend to have very open lines of communication with their kids. One of the tenents of the nudist philosophy is body awareness and concern for one’s health. As such, kids know alot about their body, the body systems, and bodily functions from an early age.
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Nudist kids see people naked all the time. It isn’t a big deal with them; in fact, it is no deal. Parents realize that as these kids hit puberty they may tend to feel more awkward about their changing bodies and I"ve never known a parent to push a child to continue to go nude that was uncomfortable. It just isn’t done. You have to be comfortable in your skin, and if you’re not that’s OK.
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The degree to which kids participate varies. Some families are nude all the time at home and dress only for going out of the home (school, sports, etc.). Others are only nude on weekends when visiting camps, resorts, beaches, etc. It varies from family to family.
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I’m reasonably sure 14-year old nudist boys get erections. Big deal. Nudists recognize that puberty is puberty. The clothing or lack there of has nothing to do with it.
As I’ve tried over and over again to stress in these types of thread, being nude around a bunch of other people who are nude isn’t particularly erotic if it isn’t in an erotic context. The folks you see at a nudist resort are exactly the same type of people you would see in any other place. There is no difference. None. Well, there is one difference…they don’t have clothes on. The air isn’t sexually charged with lust and pheromes. People aren’t having sex on the lawn. Barry White isn’t playing on the stereo while people pair off for some sort of illicit activity. They’re just everyday, ordinary, run of the mill people doing everyday, ordinary, run of the mill stuff without their clothes on. That’s it. Period.
Fuel, honey, did you maybe miss a day in sex ed? Or perhaps your method of hugging friends and casual acquaintances of the opposite sex differs from mine…
Somehow the “can hug the opposite sex without worrying about losing virginity” thing reminds me of the scene in In and Out where one of Kevin Kline’s schoolkids says gay sex is only natural in prisons and for astronauts.
You people can’t pick up on a sarcastic, stretching-the-truth comment/joke? What ever happened to giving a poster, who has just composed a coherant opinion, the benefit of the doubt?
Kalhoun and Mixie, you mean to tell me that you sincerely thought I didn’t know how babies were made? If not, then what was the purpose of your post?
Here is the order: Read, think, consider, re-read, empathize, give benefit of the doubt, write, proof-read, re-consider, send.
Uh, no. This is a message board, not job application letter or the Supreme Court. Going through all that mess just for a post is like rehearsing what you’re going to say about the game when you go to the corner bar. You’re puttiing way too much energy into it.
I’ve gone to nude beaches as a teenager, and I was not overwhelmed with thoughts of sex. In fact, regular beaches are far more “sexy.”
What a lot of people fail to realize, is that in America people sexualize a lot of things that are not inherently sexy to that extent.
Did I look at girls when I went to a nude beach? Yes. At the very least, they are aesthetically pleasing. Also, going to a nude beach makes you feel better about humanity, and better about yourself. At least in my case.
America tends to make people both ashamed of nudity, and obsessive about it. America hates nude beaches, but it loves porn.
Honestly, can anyone really believe that is the healthy way to look at nudity? Nude beaches are the perfect antidote to these perverted American values.
two words: Sex Predators.