Nursing moms who returned to work...advice? (TMI, maybe)

Our youngest son is three months old and we are (read: I am) nursing him. I’ve returned to work so this means I’m expressing milk at the office. I’m fortunate enough to have my own office. When I explained to our new office manager my situation, she had a lock installed on my door. Now no one can do the infamous simul-knock-and-enter routine.

It’s still a little off-putting to be in my office with, er, the girls exposed, but that’s life, I suppose. I have a window office but I never bother to draw the blinds while I’m pumping. First, I’m usually facing away from the window and second, I guess I really don’t care. I’m on the 16th floor and, unless you’re using field glasses, you really can’t see into my office anyway.

The first two weeks of expressing at the office, I hand expressed milk. Boy that led to sore breasts! I’ve since mastered my Avent Isis manual pump and have noticed a big difference! One of the main reasons I chose the Avent Isis system because it allows you to express directly into a disposable nurser bag. I use the Gerber Seal and Store bags because they have a zipper lock system at the top of the bag and they’re freezer safe.

The only problem I have is finding the time to express milk. Ideally, I’d like to pump four times while at the office. I haven’t gone above three and usually only get to pump twice. We had to buy formula to supplement the other day. Hopefully, I can pump this weekend and have enough for Noah to get through Tuesday. If I stick to my schedule next week, he’ll be able to have breast milk all week. I really want Noah to remain on breast milk for the first year of his life. I’ll probably stop breast-feeding him when he gets his top and bottom teeth in but I really want to continue expressing milk for him.

I’m in desperate need of a tote bag, though! I haven’t had the time to get one. I’ve been using a small paper bag with handles from Whole Foods. It’s sturdy, but it’ll get worn soon. I’ve got my eye on this one and hopefully I’ll have time to pick it up on my way home this evening.

What do the other nursing moms who have returned to work do? I’d love to hear from moms who pumped in the office in the past, too. Any tips?

I pumped for 9 months, using a Medela Pump in Style. I stopped about 3 months ago, when my son was 13 months old and could drink milk, although I still breastfed him (still do, actually, once a day). The best advice I can give is to give yourself a lot of credit for doing it. It’s really hard, and I found that it got harder, rather than easier, because it takes up so much time. Lactation consultants always told me to give myself credit because a lot of women don’t pump during the day–they frequently give formula during the day and breastfeed at night.

Also, unless you’ve got lots of milk, don’t sweat supplementing with formula. Aaron had to have 1 or 2 bottles of formula a day, in addition to the pumped milk, because I couldn’t pump enough. It didn’t hurt him any, and he didn’t mind drinking it.

I pumped 4 times a day for many months, then dropped to 3 times, then 2 times. I wasn’t get all that much for my efforts and it was soooo time consuming. I was also lucky enough to have my own office. To cut down on people knocking on my door during a session, I had a little sign with a picture of my baby that said, “I will be available in 20 minutes.” Didn’t tell them why, but it seemed to be enough to do the trick. I updated the picture periodically. People still ask me to put pictures of Aaron on the door so they can see how he’s doing.

I kept my Medela in my office (it’s heavy) and just toted the bottles and ice packs around. We have an office refrigerator and I stored the milk in there. I have an Avent thermal bag and I just threw that whole thing in the fridge and then threw everything in a backpack and brought it home.

Good luck! It’s a great thing you’re doing.

Try this site: http://www.pumpingmoms.org . They run a mailing list that is pretty high volume, but packed full of useful information.

Also, you might want to go to a La Leche League Meeting – many areas have evening meetings that cater more towards working moms, and you can meet others in similiar situations. http://www.lalecheleague.org and search for a group in your area.

I also used a Medela Pump-in-style. I have a very flexible working schedule (in terms of what I work on when) and a private office, but I still found it difficult to pump as often as I’d planned. I should have brought a timer or alarm clock in, because I would have been more successful if I did it more often.

I bought a second set of “horns” so it was easier to take one set home to wash in the dishwasher occasionally. For daily washes, I filled a large heavy-duty ziplock full of hot water and dishwashing soap in the ladies’ room, put the pump parts in, zipped, and swished like hell.

One tip you probably already know–letdown may be easier if you look at a photo of your baby and think about him.

Pumpingmoms.org is exactly as advertised–high volume but really useful.

Pat yourself on the back–this is not easy and takes real commitment.

I returned to work when my son was 3 months old and pumped until he was 9 months old using a Medela pump in Style, but continued to breastfeed at home until he was 12 months old. I only sat in a cubicle, so I had to find somewhere else to pump. The place I was working when I first went back to work was terrible - I had to pump in a nasty bathroom that took me 5 minutes one way to walk to, so each pump break took me 30 minutes. My boss was not exactly understanding, either.

Then I changed jobs and now actually work for Medela, so it isn’t a fair comparison. :slight_smile:

I was blessed with lots of milk, so I didn’t supplement. Double electric pumping will express more milk than manual, almost as much as the baby. If you think an electric pump is expensive, keep in mind that formula feeding costs $150 a month if that is the baby’s sole sustenance, so if you can keep from formula for two months, you get your pay back.

Another thing that worked for me was a travel alarm clock that could record a voice and hold a picture. They thought you would use the recording as an alarm (but you could also play it back without being set as an alarm), but I used it to record the sound of my son breastfeeding, and I played it when I would pump to help let down. I could set the real alarm to remind me to pump, then play the voice recording when I pumped.

I will try not to plug my company too hard, but they are great. The ultimate in convenience and performance is the Medela Traveler (double pump in a back pack). The motor is detachable from the bag, so you can leave it at work and just cart the bottles and pieces home. I bought an Avent sterilizer so I could sterilize the pieces in the microwave at work to further reduce the annoyance it is to pump. 5 minutes in the micro, period. Done. You can buy a Traveler over the internet from the link below, or you can email me and I can give you more info.

http://www.ababyoutlets.com/medela_traveler_breastpump.htm

You can pump directly into disposable bags with the Traveler, too, by the way. If you are worried about the time it takes and milk supply, electric is the way to go. I generally pumped 10-12 ounces (both sides going at once) per session in about 8 minutes once I got used to letting down to the motor sound. It is very quiet, too, by the way. No one will hear it standing outside yoru door, but would in teh same room with you.

Hi! I’ve done the whole pumping routine. Twice.

Quick question - how long does it take you to pump? I love my Isis pump, but it takes WAY longer with that pump than with the Medela Pump-in-Style (plus, the PIS has its own storage compartment). An electric double-pump setup is really useful. If you are using the Avent bottles or other wide-mouth bottles, there is a converter set that works like the bottom of the Avent Isis. I used the Avent bottles (wide-mouth) this time, and the converter set.

I agree with the overall kudos - it takes dedication to start, and to continue. And it is okay to supplement when diminishing returns cross your personal threshold.

Anyway, my experience…

First time, I was the first woman in my office to ever pump (previously, they’d had a whopping 6 month maternity leave policy, so nobody bothered… then they got bigger, and so much for that leave!). I was politely told that I could pump in the bathroom. Oh, JOY. I suggested that running an extension cord across the bathroom floor would qualify as an OSHA hazard, so they put in a power outlet in one stall, and the nice facilities guys also put in a shelf for my pump (on their own initiative). Still, it was a bathroom. Ick. But, hey, the conference rooms in that building all had floor-to-ceiling windows, and I lived in a cube. No door.

Then, I moved to another building, and found that the conference rooms were windowless! YAY! So I booked conference rooms every day at a certain time. If I missed my time, my room might be taken, so I was never more than a few minutes late. Not having the flexibility of an office of my own was a real help for keeping to a schedule.

Then, I moved to a client site. Now, that was nice. They had a lactation room. Complete with a sign on the door listing the benefits of breastfeeding.

Then, back to the first building. At that point, I was pretty open about the pumping thing, so people started offering me spare offices to use for pumping so I didn’t have to use the bathroom anymore. But soon thereafter, my pumping supply crashed. My son was 11 months old (~9 months of pumping!), and after talking it over with my ped, we started him on whole milk during the day, and just kept nursing mornings, evenings, and weekends (and nights, too).

I used a Medela PIS (same one both times). I pumped 4 times a day until my supply stabilized and I got through the growth spurts. Then I dropped to three, and stayed there until my supply for the pump crashed at 11 months (really 10.5 months, but hung on and slowly cut out sessions for two weeks).

In the four years between Gabe and Brendan, my company had a population explosion, as all the young punks who worked there got married and started having kids. One of my mentees was not going anywhere near a bathroom to pump, and she happened to be in charge of a quality-of-(work)life group. Suddenly, we had a push for a privacy room - and not just for the pumping moms, but also for anyone who had to make a private phone call that might be less than fun in a cube farm environment. Scheduled time like a conference room, so you knew it was yours.

When I came back from leave this last time, there were three moms using the privacy room. I pumped three times a day at first, then quickly dropped to twice a day, as I was dealing with an oversupply, and got an ounce a minute, no matter when I pumped. Decreasing how much I pumped was one of the ways I managed the oversupply (less stimulation). Plus, Brendan is one of those kids who saves up for when you get home. Instead of drinking 20-24 oz in his 10 hours of daycare a day, he drank 12-15 oz, and rapidly dropped that to 10 oz. Meanwhile, I could supply two babies with milk (which I did, actually - donated some of it).

Once the oversupply stabilized, I then had to deal with all the usual supply issues, getting enough, etc. My supply crashed again at 10.5-11 months. But this time, not such a good idea to swap off to something else, as Brendan had a dairy allergy. I ate oatmeal and used fenugreek and pumped more, and got through the gap. Continued until about 14 months, then tapered off (he was drinking rice milk at that point, and the ped was not concerned about his fat intake, as he eats loads of meat and avocados).

Happy to be done pumping, but really glad I managed it. The first time, getting through all those supply crashes sucked (at 6 months, right along with a growth spurt, my supply dropped… etc.). Sucked again the second time, once the oversupply was gone. The oversupply was GREAT for pumping, but the diarrhea and tummy upsets from Brendan were not so happy. I wish I’d taken more advantage of it, really, and kept a more subtantial freezer stash. It wouldn’t have taken much extra effort, though it would have slowed down the supply adjustment, which wouldn’t have been so great. Ah, well, it worked at the time, and that’s fine.

Here’s my favorite tips on pumping more article (yeah, I wrote it :smiley: ).

(Hi, Ceejaytee!)

I am currently nursing my 7 month old and working full-time. I pump 2 or 3 times a day, for a total of 15 oz. I also nurse her another 5 or 6 times and she gets solids too. I use the PIS too.

Pumpingmoms.org is great - I belong. breastfeeding.com is another great community that I highly recommend. Kathleen Huggins’s Nursing Mother’s Companion is a great general reference book for nursing.

chrisk72 You work for Medela?!? How rad! Someone I know has the traveler and loves it and it is so fast! What do you do at Medela?

I do have to agree that for full-time pumping you really need a fully automatic double electric breast pump.

I personally find pumping to be a major huge PITA drag. But it is really for a short time out of my life and I think the benefits for my kid are huge. Though every few days I say to my husband “I think pretty soon we’ll have to start suplimenting with formula”, we havn’t yet. A friend recommended that I get a good book to read while I pump so I did and that has helped it not seem like such a pain.

Interesting to see how many of us pumping SDMBers there are.

Twiddle

I haven’t experienced pumping at work, but I wanted to point you all to the site where I got my pump: www.affordablebreastpumps.com. The prices are the cheapest I found, and the service was great. I have an Ameda Purely Yours, which is similar to the Medela pump-in-style.

Juanita, I’m wondering if you may want to get what my husband delicately calls an “electric double-barreled boobie sucker.” From what I’ve heard, the Isis is the best manual pump, but an electric is much better for heavy use.

Twiddle - Yes, I really do - they are the best! I am the industrial engineer 0 streamline business processes, improve manufacturing efficiency, capacity planning, stuff like that. I had bought my PNS before I worked here.

Also pumped at work.

For me, I’d feed her in the morning, get to work (40 minute commute). Pump about half an hour or an hour after I got to work for 20 minutes ), pump again at lunch (20 minutes) pump about and hour or half an hour before leaving (20 minutes). I only did this for a few months though. I was consulting, so I was at a client (which was very awkward). After a couple months, I was benched, so worked from home and pumped whenenver I wanted (she was still in daycare).

I had a Medela hospital pump that insurance covered because my milk didn’t come in for a week.

When my daughter rejected the breast at six months, the pump couldn’t keep my milk supply up and I was dry in a week. Something to keep in mind if you think you want to express and then bottle feed (although others have different luck - I apparently was NOT bred for the dairy cow business).